Accredited Standards Committee* InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS) Doc. No.: T10/04-133r0 Date: May 4, 2004 Reply to: John Lohmeyer To: T10 Membership From: Ralph Weber and John Lohmeyer Subject: SAS Protocol WG -- May 3, 2004 Seaside, CA Agenda 1. Opening Remarks 2. Approval of Agenda 3. Attendance and Membership 4. Old Business 4.1 SAS 1.1, adding the Terminate Data Transfer protocol service (03-245r4) [Evans] 4.2 SAS-1.1, protocol for changing driver amplitude (03-285r2) [Evans] 4.3 SAS-1.1: Close Port Selector Detection Gap (04-029r1) [Sheffield] 4.4 SAS 1.1 UML Corrections (04-042r2) [Penokie] 5. New Business 5.1 SAS-1.1: Fix SP Hang States (04-030r1) [Sheffield] 5.2 SAS-1.1 Miscellaneous changes (04-115r1) [Elliott] 5.3 SAS-1.1, ST_T (transport layer for SSP target ports) state machines (04-137r0) [Evans] 6. Review of Recommendations 7. Meeting Schedule 8. Adjournment Results of Meeting 1. Opening Remarks John Lohmeyer called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. Monday, May 3, 2004. He thanked Bob Snively of Brocade for hosting the meeting. As usual, the people present introduced themselves. 2. Approval of Agenda The draft agenda was approved with no changes. No items were added or revised during the course of the meeting. 3. Attendance and Membership Attendance at working group meetings does not count toward minimum attendance requirements for T10 membership. Working group meetings are open to any person or organization directly and materially affected by T10's scope of work. The following people attended the meeting: Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address ---------------------- -- ------------------------- ------------------------- Ms. Pat Thaler P Agilent Technologies pat_thaler at agilent dot com Mr. Henry Wong V Agilent Technologies henry_wong2 at agilent dot com Mr. Gunter Knestele V CERTANCE Gunter dot Knestele at certance dot com Mr. Dexter Anderson P Crossroads Systems, Inc. danderson at crossroads dot com Mr. Duncan Penman V Data Transit duncan dot penman at datatransit dot com Mr. Kevin Marks P Dell, Inc. kevin_marks at dell dot com Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex bob dot nixon at emulex dot com Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas roweber at ieee dot org Mr. Gary Stephens V FSI Consulting Services grsfsi at aol dot com Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick P Fujitsu mfitzpatrick at fcpa dot fujitsu dot com Mr. Tim Mackley A General Dynamics timothy dot mackley at gd-ais dot com Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co. Elliott at hp dot com Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems gop at us dot ibm dot com Mr. Kevin Butt V IBM Corp. kdbutt at us dot ibm dot com Mr. Robert Sheffield P Intel Corp. robert dot l dot sheffield at intel dot com Mr. Brian Day V LSI Logic Corp. brian dot day at lsil dot com Mr. Tim Hoglund V LSI Logic Corp. tim dot hoglund at lsil dot com Mr. Steve Johnson V LSI Logic Corp. sjohnson at lsil dot com Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10 dot org Mr. Steven Schauer V LSI Logic Corp. steve dot schauer at lsil dot com Mr. Martin Czekalski A Maxtor Corp. marty_czekalski at maxtor dot com Mr. Mark Evans P Maxtor Corp. mark_evans at maxtor dot com Mr. David Wong V PMC-Sierra dave_wong at pmc-sierra dot com Mr. Don Carothers V QLogic Corp. don dot carothers at qlogic dot com Mr. Greg Elkins V QLogic Corp. greg dot elkins at qlogic dot com Mr. Jim Coomes A Seagate Technology jim dot coomes at seagate dot com Mr. Dave Deming AV Solution Technology ddeming at soltechnology dot com Mr. Mark Miquelon AV Vitesse Semiconductor miquelon at vitesse dot com 28 People Present Status Key: P - Principal A,A# - Alternate AV - Advisory Member L - Liaison V - Visitor 4. Old Business 4.1 SAS 1.1, adding the Terminate Data Transfer protocol service (03-245r4) [Evans] Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next meeting. 4.2 SAS-1.1, protocol for changing driver amplitude (03-285r2) [Evans] Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next meeting. 4.3 SAS-1.1: Close Port Selector Detection Gap (04-029r1) [Sheffield] Bob Sheffield presented a proposal to use a new BROADCAST(CHANGE) primitive to interlock handling of port selectors and a new LINK RATE NOT NEGOTIATED value for the NEGOTIATED PHYSICAL LINK RATE field in the DISCOVER Response to establish positive reporting of port selector presence. Concerns were raised about definition of the proposed 4h negotiated physical link rate code value. The balance between dealing with normal link rate negotiations and the requirements for supporting the inactive side of a port selector required careful consideration of the definition. Bob agreed to prepare a new revision of the proposal for consideration at the next meeting. 4.4 SAS 1.1 UML Corrections (04-042r2) [Penokie] Due to the late hour, George Penokie requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next meeting. 5. New Business 5.1 SAS-1.1: Fix SP Hang States (04-030r1) [Sheffield] Bob Sheffield presented a proposal to clearly identify SP state diagram transitions to COMINIT (04-030r1). The group requested several substantial changes and Bob agreed to prepare a new revision for consideration at the next meeting. 5.2 SAS-1.1 Miscellaneous changes (04-115r1) [Elliott] Rob Elliott led the group in a review of several unrelated changes (04-115r1). The group requested numerous changes and Rob agreed to prepare a new revision for consideration at the next meeting. 5.3 SAS-1.1, ST_T (transport layer for SSP target ports) state machines (04-137r0) [Evans] Due to the late hour, Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next meeting. 6. Review of Recommendations The following documents were recommended for inclusion in SAS-1.1 during this meeting: For inclusion in SAS-1.1: None 7. Meeting Schedule A SAS Protocol Working Group meeting is scheduled for: Monday, July 12, 2004 commencing at 9:00 a.m. in Colorado Springs, CO at the Doubletree World Arena Hotel (719-576-8900), hosted by LSI Logic. The group discussed holding a teleconference on June 3rd, with details to be arranged during the T10 Plenary meeting. Additional teleconference calls may be announced on the T10 reflector as needed. 8. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m. on Monday May 3, 2004.