Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

                                                      Doc. No.: T10/04-133r0
                                                          Date: May 4, 2004
                                                      Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To:      T10 Membership
From:    Ralph Weber and John Lohmeyer
Subject: SAS Protocol WG -- May 3, 2004
         Seaside, CA

Agenda
1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Old Business
4.1      SAS 1.1, adding the Terminate Data Transfer protocol service (03-245r4)
[Evans]
4.2      SAS-1.1, protocol for changing driver amplitude (03-285r2) [Evans]
4.3      SAS-1.1: Close Port Selector Detection Gap (04-029r1) [Sheffield]
4.4      SAS 1.1 UML Corrections (04-042r2) [Penokie]
5.     New Business
5.1      SAS-1.1: Fix SP Hang States (04-030r1) [Sheffield]
5.2      SAS-1.1 Miscellaneous changes (04-115r1) [Elliott]
5.3      SAS-1.1, ST_T (transport layer for SSP target ports) state machines
(04-137r0) [Evans]
6.     Review of Recommendations
7.     Meeting Schedule
8.     Adjournment


Results of Meeting

1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. Monday, May 3, 2004. He
thanked Bob Snively of Brocade for hosting the meeting. As usual, the people
present introduced themselves.


2.     Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with no changes.

No items were added or revised during the course of the meeting.


3.     Attendance and Membership

Attendance at working group meetings does not count toward minimum attendance
requirements for T10 membership. Working group meetings are open to any person
or organization directly and materially affected by T10's scope of work. The
following people attended the meeting:

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Ms. Pat Thaler         P  Agilent Technologies      pat_thaler at agilent
                                                    dot com
Mr. Henry Wong         V  Agilent Technologies      henry_wong2 at agilent
                                                    dot com
Mr. Gunter Knestele    V  CERTANCE                  Gunter dot Knestele at
                                                    certance dot com
Mr. Dexter Anderson    P  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  danderson at crossroads
                                                    dot com
Mr. Duncan Penman      V  Data Transit              duncan dot penman at
                                                    datatransit dot com
Mr. Kevin Marks        P  Dell, Inc.                kevin_marks at dell dot
                                                    com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon    P  Emulex                    bob dot nixon at emulex
                                                    dot com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     P  ENDL Texas                roweber at ieee dot org
Mr. Gary Stephens      V  FSI Consulting Services   grsfsi at aol dot com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick   P  Fujitsu                   mfitzpatrick at fcpa dot
                                                    fujitsu dot com
Mr. Tim Mackley        A  General Dynamics          timothy dot mackley at
                                                    gd-ais dot com
Mr. Rob Elliott        P  Hewlett Packard Co.       Elliott at hp dot com
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM / Tivoli Systems      gop at us dot ibm dot com
Mr. Kevin Butt         V  IBM Corp.                 kdbutt at us dot ibm dot
                                                    com
Mr. Robert Sheffield   P  Intel Corp.               robert dot l dot
                                                    sheffield at intel dot
                                                    com
Mr. Brian Day          V  LSI Logic Corp.           brian dot day at lsil
                                                    dot com
Mr. Tim Hoglund        V  LSI Logic Corp.           tim dot hoglund at lsil
                                                    dot com
Mr. Steve Johnson      V  LSI Logic Corp.           sjohnson at lsil dot com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at t10 dot org
Mr. Steven Schauer     V  LSI Logic Corp.           steve dot schauer at
                                                    lsil dot com
Mr. Martin Czekalski   A  Maxtor Corp.              marty_czekalski at
                                                    maxtor dot com
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Maxtor Corp.              mark_evans at maxtor dot
                                                    com
Mr. David Wong         V  PMC-Sierra                dave_wong at pmc-sierra
                                                    dot com
Mr. Don Carothers      V  QLogic Corp.              don dot carothers at
                                                    qlogic dot com
Mr. Greg Elkins        V  QLogic Corp.              greg dot elkins at
                                                    qlogic dot com
Mr. Jim Coomes         A  Seagate Technology        jim dot coomes at
                                                    seagate dot com
Mr. Dave Deming        AV Solution Technology       ddeming at soltechnology
                                                    dot com
Mr. Mark Miquelon      AV Vitesse Semiconductor     miquelon at vitesse dot
                                                    com

28 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             AV   -  Advisory Member
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor


4.     Old Business

4.1    SAS 1.1, adding the Terminate Data Transfer protocol service (03-245r4)
[Evans]

Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next
meeting.

4.2    SAS-1.1, protocol for changing driver amplitude (03-285r2) [Evans]

Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next
meeting.

4.3    SAS-1.1: Close Port Selector Detection Gap (04-029r1) [Sheffield]

Bob Sheffield presented a proposal to use a new BROADCAST(CHANGE) primitive to
interlock handling of port selectors and a new LINK RATE NOT NEGOTIATED value
for the NEGOTIATED PHYSICAL LINK RATE field in the DISCOVER Response to
establish positive reporting of port selector presence.

Concerns were raised about definition of the proposed 4h negotiated physical
link rate code value. The balance between dealing with normal link rate
negotiations and the requirements for supporting the inactive side of a port
selector required careful consideration of the definition.

Bob agreed to prepare a new revision of the proposal for consideration at the
next meeting.

4.4    SAS 1.1 UML Corrections (04-042r2) [Penokie]

Due to the late hour, George Penokie requested that discussion of this topic
be deferred to the next meeting.


5.     New Business

5.1    SAS-1.1: Fix SP Hang States (04-030r1) [Sheffield]

Bob Sheffield presented a proposal to clearly identify SP state diagram
transitions to COMINIT (04-030r1). The group requested several substantial
changes and Bob agreed to prepare a new revision for consideration at the next
meeting.

5.2    SAS-1.1 Miscellaneous changes (04-115r1) [Elliott]

Rob Elliott led the group in a review of several unrelated changes (04-115r1).
The group requested numerous changes and Rob agreed to prepare a new revision
for consideration at the next meeting.

5.3    SAS-1.1, ST_T (transport layer for SSP target ports) state machines
(04-137r0) [Evans]

Due to the late hour, Mark Evans requested that discussion of this topic be
deferred to the next meeting.


6.     Review of Recommendations

The following documents were recommended for inclusion in SAS-1.1 during this
meeting:

For inclusion in SAS-1.1: None


7.     Meeting Schedule

A SAS Protocol Working Group meeting is scheduled for:

Monday, July 12, 2004 commencing at 9:00 a.m. in Colorado Springs, CO at the
Doubletree World Arena Hotel (719-576-8900), hosted by LSI Logic.

The group discussed holding a teleconference on June 3rd, with details to be
arranged during the T10 Plenary meeting.

Additional teleconference calls may be announced on the T10 reflector as
needed.


8.     Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m. on Monday May 3, 2004.