Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/04-135r0
Date: May 18, 2004
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #61 -- May 6, 2004
Seaside, CA
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - March 2004 Meeting - Dana Point, CA (T10/04-085r0)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.3 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.4 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.5 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.6 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.7 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.8 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D} [Penokie/Elliott]
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.10 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]
8.11 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
8.12 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.13 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.14 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
8.16 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
8.17 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) {Project 1675-D} [McFerrin]
8.18 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) {Project 1683-D} [Penokie]
9. Old Business
10. New Business
10.1 SCSI to ATA Translation Study Group (04-151r1) [Elliott]
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
10.6 Trusted Computing Group Introduction (T11/04-278v0) [Fitzpatrick]
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 Recommendation to approve FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC [Robinson]
11.2.2 ISO NWIP for SBC-2 (04-125r0) [Elliott]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
12.8 SATA II [Cox/open]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday May 6, 2004. He thanked Bob Snively of Brocade for hosting the
meeting.
John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance was
taken electronically via the meeting web site.
2. Approval of Agenda
No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
No items were added/revised during the course of the meeting.
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2004 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 7 people from 3 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
04-098r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Cisco Systems, Inc.
General Dynamics
Microsoft Corp.
All the organizations in attendance jeopardy were present.
Had any of the organizations in jeopardy failed to attend the meeting, the
members from that organization would have had their membership changed to
non-voting status.
The AMCC membership was changed to advisory at the request of Paul von
Stamwitz who has replaced Neil Wanamaker. This decreases the voting membership
by one organization.
The following organizations became voting members of T10 at this meeting:
CNT
Dot Hill Systems Corp.
The T10 membership during the meeting was 39 organizations up from the 38
member organizations prior to the meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.
John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three Letter Ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then noted
that no organizations are currently in Letter Ballot jeopardy.
Two organizations will be in letter ballot jeopardy if they do not return the
next letter ballot (except that AMCC has changed their membership to
advisory):
T10 Letter Ballot Jeopardy Report -- 2004/04/26
Ballot: 04-109r0
Report: 04-110r0
Acronym: SAM-3 MMC-4 ADT
Organization
--------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ------------
Agilent Technologies Yes DNV Yes
AMCC Yes Abs DNV
Key:
Yes Organization voted Yes
No Organization voted No
Abs Organization voted Abstain
DNV Organization failed to return letter ballot
4. Approval of Minutes - March 2004 Meeting - Dana Point, CA (T10/04-085r0)
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell@itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday May 13, 2004. Documents received
after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.
People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.
T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.
John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.
Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.
To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo@t10.org with the
line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.
The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:
http://www.incits.org/.
LSI Logic maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the
SCSI Trade Association at:
http://www.t10.org/
There is also a mirror site at:
http://www.t11.org/t10/
The T10 document register is available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any
potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco@ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.
Bob Sheffield reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.
John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.
There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those
mentioned above.
7. Review of Old Action Items
545 David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP, CIM
over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH. Carry over.
566 John Lohmeyer will forward 04-055r1 to INCITS for further processing as a
new project proposal for SAM-4. Complete.
567 John Lohmeyer will notify INCITS that T10 recommends the reaffirmation of
INCITS.131:1994 [R1999] (SCSI-2). Complete.
568 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 reviewed project
1.25.13.11.27: FDIS 14776-452: SCSI SPC-2, and recommends that the JTC1/SC25
TAG vote to approve said FDIS. Complete.
569 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has recommended
ISO/IEC 14776-411:1999, Information technology -- Small Computer System
Interface-3 -- Part 411: SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SCSI-3 SAM) be confirmed
and that the five questions be answered as shown in document T10/04-085r1 (the
minutes of T10 meeting #60). Complete.
570 Gary Robinson will inform the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed the new
work item proposal, and recommends the NWIP for ATA/ATAPI-7 (T10/04-091r0) as
a US contribution to JTC1/SC25 and to approve the NP to be issued by SC25,
answering the 6 questions 'Yes' and naming Gary S. Robinson as project editor.
Complete.
Regarding action item 545, David Black reported that SNMP URL draft is close
to done. The DMTF has written an initial document for CIM over HTTP/HTTPS that
has not been taken up by the IETF. In the mean time, the CIM port numbers
should be used with HTTP/HTTPS. The SSH URL draft is in progress.
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.
John said that he had presented the T10 Annual Report (04-113r0) to the INCITS
Standards Development Board last week. He and Gary Robinson had also attended
the INCITS TC Symposium and the Awards Banquet.
Rob Elliott won an INCITS Technical Excellence Award. Rob has served as
Project Editor on the SCSI Block Commands - 2, the SCSI Enclosure Commands -
2, Serial Attached SCSI, and Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1. Rob was especially
prodigious editing the Serial Attached SCSI standard, producing 27 revisions
in 14 months! SAS began development in May 2002 and was published 18 months
later in November 2003 with 464 well-written pages. Beyond SAS, Rob is one of
the most active contributors to the work of T10 having submitted nearly 200
proposals since he joined the committee in 1998.
Gary Robinson won an INCITS Merit Award for many contributions to INCITS and
the standards community for over 25 years. Some of the positions held by Gary
include Chair of X3T9.3; International Representative for X3T9 and, later,
International Representative for T10 and T11; member of the IEEE Registration
Authority Committee; and member of the ANSI Standards Review Board. Gary was
also a member of the committee that developed the original Ethernet standard.
Bob Snively won the INCITS Gene Milligan Award for Effective Committee
Management. Bob began participating on the X3T9.2 task group in 1984. He has
since participated on T10, T11, and various subgroups of these committees. He
has been an active participant in the international program of work for both
these groups. Bob has served as project editor for SCSI Enclosure Services and
Fibre Channel Protocol. Bob is the current Chair of T11, the largest INCITS
TC, with three active task groups. He has performed an excellent job managing
T11 following the approved procedures in an exemplary fashion.
Ed Grivna (former T11 Vice Chair) and Craig Carlson (T11.3 Chair) also won
awards. Ed's award was presented at the INCITS Awards Banquet and Craig's
award will be presented at the next T11 meeting.
INCITS was especially responsive in listening to the gripes and needs of the
Technical Committees. They promised prompt action to the issues that were
disclosed during the course of the meetings.
INCITS asked for feed back on standards pricing. They are considering
significantly raising the price of standards above today's $18 PDF price.
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.
John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or production
strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
hinder a competitor in any market.
8.2 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that comments resolution on the OSD letter ballot is
ongoing. The latest revision of the comments resolution document is 04-108r2.
There were 595 comments received on the letter ballot. The SNIA OSD Technical
Working Group will be discussing about 75 of these comments during the SNIA
symposium on 20 May. About 20 comments have proposed resolutions in 04-108r2.
The remaining 500 comments have yet to be processed.
8.3 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
John Lohmeyer reported SMC-2 is headed to BSR for approval.
8.4 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SPC-3 revision 19 will be prepared based on
proposals approved by this meeting and will be posted before the next meeting
but probably not in time for the mailing. A forwarding Letter Ballot is
planned for November 2004.
8.5 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported SBC-2 revision 14 will be based on the proposals accepted
at this meeting, probably not in time for the mailing. Rob agreed to consider
holding the SBC-2 Letter Ballot before the SPC-3 Letter Ballot.
8.6 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
John Lohmeyer reported that SBP-3 is headed to BSR for approval.
8.7 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
John Lohmeyer reported that Cris Simpson has indicated a desire to resume work
on SRP-2 in the July time frame.
8.8 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D} [Penokie/Elliott]
George Penokie reported that revision 0 will be prepared before the next
meeting based on a proposal to be accepted by this meeting. He noted that the
first MSC revision will not be available in time for the mailing.
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin was absent. John Lohmeyer reported that the MMC-4 letter ballot
closed April 23, 2004. It passed 27:4:6:1=38 as documented in 04-107r0. There
are a significant number of comments that now need to be resolved.
8.10 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]
Paul Entzel reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
04-120r0). The ADT forwarding letter ballot closed April 26, 2004. It passed
30:3:4:1=38 as documented in 04-110r0. Comment resolution is underway but no
comments resolution document has been posted yet.
8.11 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
Paul Entzel reported that the ADC letter ballot resolution document is
03-385r1.
8.12 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SES-2 revision 8 will be prepared including
proposals approved by this meeting in time for the mailing. He noted that a
letter ballot should be held sometime late this summer.
8.13 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
Dave Peterson reported on the activities of the FCP-3 working group (minutes
in 04-158r0). He noted that proposals recommended to this meeting will be
discussed under agenda item 10.5.
8.14 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that the letter ballot on revision 13 closed April 21,
2004. It passed 36:2:0:0=38 as documented in 04-103r0. Comment resolution has
begun and the current revision of the comments resolution document is
04-116r0.
The letter ballot responses included 406 comments. Of these about 150 need to
be discussed in T10 meetings, a handful have proposed resolutions, and the
remainder have yet to be processed.
Around 10 comments were resolved during the CAP working group meeting. A SAM-3
letter ballot comments resolution meeting will begin after the plenary
finishes. A new revision of 04-116r1 will be posted reflecting the results of
this week's discussions.
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SAS-1.1 revision 5 will incorporate all the
proposals (if any, see agenda item 10.3) approved by this meeting.
He noted that the plan is to keep SAS-1.1 open until sufficient
interoperability information is available from the plugfests.
He stated that a SAS-1.1 telephone conference call is being planned for June
3.
Alvin Cox reported on the SAS PHY working group meeting (minutes in 04-139r0).
Alvin reported that the SAS PHY working group is planning bi-weekly conference
calls starting in two-weeks. Details will be announced on the T10 reflector.
8.16 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
Dave Peterson reported on the activities of the SSC-3 working group (minutes
in 04-153r0).
Discussion items included:
Explicit Address Commands Lessons Learned
TapeAlert Functionality
04-144r0: Veritas Input on SSC-3 Features
04-104r0: Add report to Report Density Support
04-119r0: DTD Status Log Page
04-123r0: Exclude Report LUNs from resetting Test bit
8.17 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) {Project 1675-D} [McFerrin]
In the absence of Bill McFerrin, there was no report.
8.18 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) {Project 1683-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that there will be no revisions of SAM-4 until the
SAM-3 Letter Ballot resolution completes.
9. Old Business
There was no old business.
10. New Business
10.1 SCSI to ATA Translation Study Group (04-151r1) [Elliott]
John Lohmeyer reported that the group agreed that work needs to be done. A
project proposal will be prepared for consideration in July. Minutes of the
study group are in 04-151r1. The group is considering meetings co-located with
T13 and regular teleconference calls in addition to time during T10 week.
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
George Penokie reported that the SAS working group forwarded no
recommendations to the committee (minutes in 04-133r0).
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAS PHY working group (minutes in 04-139r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-1.1:
04-128r1 (SAS-1.1 OOB Signal Rate @ 1,5G only) [Lye]
04-150r0 (SAS TCFF update) [Cox/Jenkins]
George Penokie requested that consideration of 04-150r0 be
deferred based on the proposals not having been available for consideration
for two weeks.
Rob Elliott noted that these actions will result in no new revision of SAS-1.1
being posted before the next meeting.
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the CAP working group (minutes in 04-134r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3:
04-105r2 (SPC-3 Persistent Reservation Fix Fix) [Penokie]
03-386r4 (SPC-3 Report LUNS Clarification) [Binford]
04-119r0 (SSC-3 DTD Status Log Page) [Banther]
04-122r1 (SPC-3 Add Preference to Report Target Port Groups) [Binford]
Ralph Weber moved that 04-119r0, and 04-122r1 be approved
for inclusion in SPC-3. Vit Novak seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 27:0:1:11=39.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposal recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3, SAS-1.1, FCP-3, and SRP-2:
04-099r1 (SAS-1, FCP-3, SRP-2 Per-Command Priority Tagging) [Penokie]
George Penokie moved that 04-099r1 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3,
SAS-1.1, FCP-3, and SRP-2. Vit Novak seconded the motion.
Mark Evans stated that the proposal represents an odious requirement on
targets.
The motion passed on a vote of 10:2:18:9=39.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3 and SBC-2:
03-388r3 (SPC-3 SBC-2 Nonvolatile caches) [Elliott]
03-307r7 (SBC, 32 Byte Commands for End-to-End Data Protection) [Coomes]
Rob Elliott moved that 03-388r3 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3 and SBC-2.
Bob Nixon seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 20:0:9:10=39.
Jim Coomes moved that 03-307r7 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3 and SBC-2.
Bob Sheffield seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
14:5:13:7=39.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SBC-2:
03-361r4 (Command Classification Field) [Penokie]
04-075r2 (SBC-2 Obsolete more features) [Elliott]
04-082r1 (SBC-2 Obsolete Notch and Partition mode page) [Elliott]
04-111r0 (SBC-2 - Protection Information Checking within Service Delivery
Subsystem) [Penokie]
04-114r0 (SBC-2 option to check only the Logical Block Guard) [Holt]
Rob Elliott moved that 04-111r0 be approved for
inclusion in SBC-2. Bob Nixon seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote
of 26:0:3:10=39.
George Penokie moved that 03-361r4 be approved for inclusion in SBC-2. Bob
Nixon seconded the motion.
Mark Evans noted that this is another odious requirement on targets.
The motion passed on a vote of 5:3:21:10=39.
John Lohmeyer moved that 04-114r0 be approved for inclusion in SBC-2. Jim
Coomes seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 13:1:17:8=39.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposal recommended for inclusion in
SES-2:
04-130r1 (SES-2 - Array Device element Status and Control page Clarifications)
[Marks]
Kevin Marks moved that 04-130r1 be approved for inclusion in SES-2. Rob
Elliott seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 16:0:15:8=39.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposal recommended for inclusion in
MSC:
03-364r1 (MSC Report Bridge Mapping command) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 03-364r1 be approved for inclusion in MSC. George
Penokie seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 15:0:14:10=39.
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the FCP-3 working group (minutes in 04-158r0) were
presented to the committee.
Dave Peterson reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
FCP-3:
04-068r2 (Impact of protection information on data length fields) [Coomes]
04-129r0 (TPRLO behavior) [Peterson]
04-112r0 (Task Management Function to Unknown LUN) [Penokie]
Jim Coomes moved that 04-129r0 be approved for inclusion in
FCP-3. Dave Peterson seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
18:0:10:11=39.
George Penokie moved that 04-112r0 be approved for inclusion in FCP-3. Bob
Nixon seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 19:1:10:9=39.
10.6 Trusted Computing Group Introduction (T11/04-278v0) [Fitzpatrick]
Mike Fitzpatrick presented an introduction to the Trusted Computing Group
(T11/04-278v0), noting that the group intends to forward proposals to T10.
Mike closed by requesting that new agenda item be added for a Trusted
Computing Group liaison report.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
Gary Robinson presented the ISO/IEC report (04-124r2).
Gary Robinson reported that the U.S. Delegation to SC 25 meeting in June will
be Bob Snively (head of delegation) and Roger Cummings. Gary noted that he
will be attending as the SC 25 working group 4 convener.
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 Recommendation to approve FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC [Robinson]
Gary Robinson moved that T10 has reviewed project 1.25.13.11.13: FCD
14776-351: SCSI SMC, and recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve
said FCD. John Lohmeyer seconded the motion.
The roll call motion passed with a tally of 29:0:0:10=39. Details of the roll
call were as follows:
Organization Voter Vote
Adaptec, Inc. Tim Symons Yes
Agilent Technologies Pat Thaler Yes
Amphenol Interconnect (not present)
Brocade Robert Snively Yes
Cisco Systems, Inc. Claudio DeSanti Yes
CNT David Peterson Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Dexter Anderson Yes
Dallas Semiconductor James A. Lott, Jr. Yes
Dell, Inc. Kevin Marks Yes
Dot Hill Systems Corp Phil Colline Yes
EMC Corp. Gary S. Robinson Yes
Emulex Robert H. Nixon Yes
ENDL Ralph O. Weber Yes
FCI Douglas Wagner Yes
Fujitsu Mike Fitzpatrick Yes
General Dynamics Tim Mackley Yes
Hewlett Packard Co. Rob Elliott Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester (not present)
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove Yes
IBM Corp. George O. Penokie Yes
Intel Corp. Robert Sheffield Yes
Iomega Corp. David Hawks Yes
LSI Logic Corp. John Lohmeyer Yes
Madison Cable Corp. (not present)
Maxtor Corp. Mark Evans Yes
Microsoft Corp. Emily Hill Yes
Molex Inc. Jay Neer Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc (not present)
Philips Electronics (not present)
Pivot3, Inc. (not present)
QLogic Corp. (not present)
Quantum Corp. Paul Entzel Yes
Seagate Technology Jim Coomes Yes
Storage Technology Corp. (not present)
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Vit Novak Yes
Texas Instruments (not present)
Toshiba (not present)
UNISYS Ron Mathews Yes
Veritas Software Roger Cummings Yes
This two-thirds roll call vote passed (29:0:0:10=39).
Gary Robinson took an action item to notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has
reviewed project 1.25.13.11.13: FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC, and recommends that
the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve said FCD.
11.2.2 ISO NWIP for SBC-2 (04-125r0) [Elliott]
Gary Robinson moved that T10 has reviewed the new work item proposal, and
recommends the NWIP for SBC-2 (T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25
and to approve the NP to be issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes'
and naming Gary S. Robinson as project editor. John Lohmeyer seconded the
motion.
The roll call motion passed with a tally of 29:0:0:10=39. Details of the roll
call were as follows:
Organization Voter Vote
Adaptec, Inc. Tim Symons Yes
Agilent Technologies Pat Thaler Yes
Amphenol Interconnect (not present)
Brocade Robert Snively Yes
Cisco Systems, Inc. Claudio DeSanti Yes
CNT David Peterson Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Dexter Anderson Yes
Dallas Semiconductor James A. Lott, Jr. Yes
Dell, Inc. Kevin Marks Yes
Dot Hill Systems Corp Phil Colline Yes
EMC Corp. Gary S. Robinson Yes
Emulex Robert H. Nixon Yes
ENDL Ralph O. Weber Yes
FCI Douglas Wagner Yes
Fujitsu Mike Fitzpatrick Yes
General Dynamics Tim Mackley Yes
Hewlett Packard Co. Rob Elliott Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester (not present)
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove Yes
IBM Corp. George O. Penokie Yes
Intel Corp. Robert Sheffield Yes
Iomega Corp. David Hawks Yes
LSI Logic Corp. John Lohmeyer Yes
Madison Cable Corp. (not present)
Maxtor Corp. Mark Evans Yes
Microsoft Corp. Emily Hill Yes
Molex Inc. Jay Neer Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc (not present)
Philips Electronics (not present)
Pivot3, Inc. (not present)
QLogic Corp. (not present)
Quantum Corp. Paul Entzel Yes
Seagate Technology Jim Coomes Yes
Storage Technology Corp. (not present)
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Vit Novak Yes
Texas Instruments (not present)
Toshiba (not present)
UNISYS Ron Mathews Yes
Veritas Software Roger Cummings Yes
This two-thirds roll call vote passed (29:0:0:10=39).
Gary Robinson took an action item to inform the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has
reviewed the new work item proposal, and recommends the NWIP for SBC-2
(T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25 and to approve the NP to be
issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes' and naming Gary S. Robinson as
project editor, after T10 Letter Ballot on SBC-2 closes.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
Bob Snively presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/04-142r0.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. ATA/ATAPI-7 has been forwarded to first Public Review. Project proposals
were approved for ATA/ATAPI-8, using a document structure similar to that used
by T10 (i.e., architecture, transport, etc.) For details regarding T13
activities see www.t13.org.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
In the absence of Dal Allan no report was available.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
Marty Czekalski provided an electronic report on the activities of the SCSI
Trade Association. The report is available in 04-152r0.
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
David Black reported that iSCSI is published as RFC 3720. A number of iSCSI
supporting documents also have been published as RFCs. Several other IPS
drafts are nearing publication.
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
Roger Cummings provided an electronic report in 04-157r0 that was displayed
for the committee to review.
12.8 SATA II [Cox/open]
The SATA II group has not yet designated an official liaison to T10.
Alvin Cox reported that both the CAPCON and PHY documents are at the end of
their 30-day internal review and should be out for public review soon.
13. Review of Action Items
545 David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP, CIM
over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH.
571 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed project
1.25.13.11.13: FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC, and recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG
vote to approve said FCD.
572 After the T10 Letter Ballot on SBC-2 has closed, Gary Robinson will inform
the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed the new work item proposal, and
recommends the NWIP for SBC-2 (T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25
and to approve the NP to be issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes'
and naming Gary S. Robinson as project editor.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday July 15, 2004 in Colorado
Springs, CO at the Doubletree World Arena Hotel (719-576-8900), hosted by LSI
Logic. The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
Monday 7/12 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| ADI WG | (10)
+=======================================+
| SAS Protocol WG | (40)
+=======================================+
Tuesday 7/13 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| SAS Physical WG | (25)
+=================+=================+===+
|SCSI/ATA Trans SG| CAP WG | (40)
+===============+=+=============+===+
| FCP-3 WG | STA Marcom * | (20)
+---------------+---------------+---+
| T11.5 FAIS WG | (30)
+-----------------------------------+-----------+
| Reception | (All)
+-----------+
Wednesday 7/14 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===================================+
| CAP WG | (40)
+===================================+
| MMC WG | (25)
+===============+=======+===========+
| SSC-3 | |SFF | (30)
+===============+-------+-------+---+
| STA Plenary * /Adm*/ TCC* | (20)
+---------------+---------------+
Thursday 7/15 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============+====================+
| T10 Plenary | SAM-3 LB Res | (45/15)
+===============+===========+========+
| FCIA Board Meeting * | (12)
+---------------------------+
Friday 7/16 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+
| SAM-3 LB Res | (15)
+=================+
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are closed meetings of other groups.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
ADI Calls To be announced via T10 reflector
MSC Call TBD To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS Prot Call June 3 TBA via T10 reflector / Penokie
SAS Prot Calls TBD To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls Bi-weekly TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
SAT Call June 4 TBA via T10 reflector / Sheffield
Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI: Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd: Amendment
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
I/F: Interface
IETF: Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
Internet standards)
iFC: Internet Fibre Channel
IPS: Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI: Internet SCSI
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP: (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
Res: Resolution
SAS: Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3: Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-2: SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5: Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP: SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2: SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2: SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP: Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10: SCSI Storage Interfaces Technical Committee
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT Paul Entzel (720) 406-5782
paul.entzel@quantum.com
ADC Rod Wideman (720) 249-5796
rod.wideman@adic.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS-1.1 Rob Elliott (281) 518-5037
Elliott@hp.com
MMC-4, MMC-5 Bill McFerrin (325) 423-1560
billmc@tstar.net
SBP-3 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson@ACM.org
MSC, SAM-4 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gpenokie@tivoli.com
SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting@Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber@acm.org
SSC-3, FCP-3 Dave Peterson (763) 268-6139
david_peterson@cnt.com
SRP-2 Cris Simpson (503) 712-4333
cris.simpson@intel.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer@t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Jul 12-16, 2004 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 2004 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable
Nov 8-12, 2004 Austin, TX Crossroads
Jan 17-21, 2005 Las Vegas, NV Hitachi GST
Mar 7-11, 2005 Dana Point, CA QLogic
May 2-6, 2005 Oklahoma City, OK Fujitsu
Jul 11-15, 2005 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 12-16, 2005 Vancouver, BC PMC Sierra
Nov 7-11, 2005 Austin, TX Crossroads
Proposed dates for 2006:
Jan 9-13, 2006
Mar 6-10, 2006
May 8-12, 2006
Jul 10-14, 2006
Sep 11-15, 2006
Nov 6-10, 2006
John Lohmeyer moved that the September 2005 meeting in Vancouver, BC be
approved. Mark Evans seconded the motion. John noted that this motion requires
a two-thirds vote for approval per the Policy for T10 Plenary Meetings and
Accompanying Meeting Weeks. The motion passed 26:1:1:11=39.
John Lohmeyer asked the group to review the proposed 2006 dates and
organizations interested hosting one of the meetings in 2006 to contact him.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Jim Coomes moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in the
list above that had not previously been approved through the end of June 2004.
Bob Nixon seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 11:35 a.m. on Thursday May 6, 2004.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Tim Symons P Adaptec, Inc. Timothy_Symons at
adaptec dot com
Ms. Pat Thaler P Agilent Technologies pat_thaler at agilent
dot com
Mr. Robert Snively P Brocade Comm. Systems, rsnively at brocade dot
Inc. com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti P Cisco Systems, Inc. cds at cisco dot com
Mr. David Peterson P CNT david_peterson at cnt
dot com
Mr. Dexter Anderson P Crossroads Systems, Inc. danderson at crossroads
dot com
Mr. James A. Lott, Jr. P Dallas Semiconductor jim dot lott at dalsemi
dot com
Mr. Kevin Marks P Dell, Inc. kevin_marks at dell dot
com
Mr. Phil Colline P Dot Hill Systems Corp Phil dot Colline at
dothill dot com
Mr. David Black A EMC Corp. black_david at emc dot
com
Mr. Gary S. Robinson P EMC Corp. robinson_gary at emc dot
com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex bob dot nixon at emulex
dot com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas roweber at ieee dot org
Mr. Douglas Wagner P FCI dwagner at fciconnect
dot com
Mr. Elwood Parsons AV Foxconn Electronics elwood dot parsons at
foxconn dot com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick P Fujitsu mfitzpatrick at fcpa dot
fujitsu dot com
Mr. Tim Mackley A General Dynamics timothy dot mackley at
gd-ais dot com
Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co. Elliott at hp dot com
Mr. Dan Colegrove P Hitachi Global Storage daniel dot colegrove at
Tech. hgst dot com
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems gop at us dot ibm dot com
Mr. Robert Sheffield P Intel Corp. robert dot l dot
sheffield at intel dot
com
Mr. David Hawks P Iomega Corp. hawks at iomega dot com
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10 dot org
Ms. Ashlie Fan P Madison Cable Corp. afan at madisoncable dot
com
Mr. Martin Czekalski A Maxtor Corp. marty_czekalski at
maxtor dot com
Mr. Mark Evans P Maxtor Corp. mark_evans at maxtor dot
com
Ms. Emily Hill P Microsoft Corp. emhill at microsoft dot
com
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc. jneer at molex dot com
Ms. Rachelle Trent AV PMC-Sierra rachelle_trent at pmc-
sierra dot com
Mr. Paul Entzel P Quantum Corp. paul dot entzel at
quantum dot com
Mr. Jim Coomes A Seagate Technology jim dot coomes at
seagate dot com
Mr. Alvin Cox V Seagate Technology Alvin dot Cox at seagate
dot com
Mr. Vit Novak P Sun Microsystems, Inc. vit dot novak at sun dot
com
Mr. Robert Kando A Texas Instruments Robert_Kando at ti dot
com
Mr. Ron Mathews P UNISYS Corporation ronald dot mathews at
unisys dot com
Mr. Roger Cummings P Veritas Software roger dot cummings at
veritas dot com
36 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
AV - Advisory Member
L - Liaison
V - Visitor