Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/04-216r0
Date: July 19, 2004
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #62 -- July 15, 2004
Colorado Springs, CO
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - May 2004 Meeting - Seaside, CA (T10/04-135r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.3 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.4 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.5 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.6 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.7 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.8 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D} [Elliott]
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.10 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project
1557-D} [Entzel]
8.11 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
8.12 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.13 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.14 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
8.16 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
8.17 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) {Project 1675-D} [McFerrin]
8.18 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) {Project 1683-D} [Penokie]
9. Old Business
10. New Business
10.1 Project Proposal for SCSI to ATA Translation (SAT) Standard (04-174r3)
[Sheffield]
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 NWIP for SAS-1.1 (04-126r0) [Elliott]
11.2.2 FDIS Ballot for FDIS 14776-220: IT - Small Computer System
Interface - Part 220: Fibre Channel Protocol for SCSI, Second Version (FCP-2)
11.2.3 FCD SMC 1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351 recommendation
11.2.4 NWIP, SCSI Block Commands-2, 14776-322, SBC-2
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
12.8 SATA II [Cox/open]
12.9 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday July 15, 2004. He thanked LSI Logic for hosting the meeting.
John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance was
taken electronically via the meeting web site.
2. Approval of Agenda
No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
The following items were added/revised during the course of the meeting:
11.2.3 FCD SMC 1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351 recommendation
11.2.4 NWIP, SCSI Block Commands-2, 14776-322, SBC-2
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2004 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 5 people from 3 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
04-161r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Cisco Systems, Inc.
Hitachi Cable Manchester
Storage Technology Corp.
All the organizations in attendance jeopardy were present.
Had any of the organizations in jeopardy failed to attend the meeting, the
members from that organization would have had their membership changed to
non-voting status.
The following organizations became voting members of T10 at this meeting:
PMC-Sierra
Foxconn
The T10 membership during the meeting was 41 organizations up from the 39
member organizations prior to the meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.
John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three Letter Ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then noted
that no organizations are currently in Letter Ballot jeopardy.
4. Approval of Minutes - May 2004 Meeting - Seaside, CA (T10/04-135r1)
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell@itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday July 22, 2004. Documents received
after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.
People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.
T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.
John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.
Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.
To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo@t10.org with the
line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.
The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:
http://www.incits.org/.
LSI Logic maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the
SCSI Trade Association at:
http://www.t10.org/
There is also a mirror site at:
http://www.t11.org/t10/
The T10 document register is available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any
potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco@ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.
Bob Sheffield reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.
John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.
George Penokie noted that he had posted "IBM Patent Licensing Position for the
INCITS T10 Committee on OSD" (04-227r0).
There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those
mentioned above.
7. Review of Old Action Items
545 David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP,
CIM over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH. Carryover
571 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed
project 1.25.13.11.13: FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC, and recommends that the
JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve said FCD. Carryover
572 After the T10 Letter Ballot on SBC-2 has closed, Gary Robinson will
inform the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed the new work item proposal, and
recommends the NWIP for SBC-2 (T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25
and to approve the NP to be issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes'
and naming Gary S. Robinson as project editor. Carryover
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.
Terry Nelson reported that the INCITS procedures group is reviewing the T10
procedures document. John noted that the procedures were reviewed several
years ago when they were originally developed.
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.
John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or production
strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
hinder a competitor in any market.
8.2 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that comments resolution on the OSD letter ballot is
complete and that the CAP working group has recommended accepting the
resolution 7:1:2. The completed comments resolution documents are 04-108r5
(04-193r5 (r4 as revised).
Ralph Weber moved that documents 04-193r5 be
accepted as resolving the OSD letter ballot comments, that the OSD editor be
instructed to prepare OSD r10 reflecting the contents of the comments
resolutions documents, and that the OSD r10 be forwarded to INCITS for further
processing towards first public review. George Penokie seconded the motion.
In response to a question from Terry Nelson, Bob Snively explained his vote
against forwarding in CAP was based on concerns that no way had been provided
for incorporating corrections for problems discovered during early
implementations. Bob stated that the plans to bring forward an OSD-2 new
project proposal in September satisfies his concerns and that he will be
voting in favor of the motion.
The motion passed on a two-thirds vote of 27:0:0:14=41.
David Black was unable to attend, but sent John Lohmeyer an e-mail message
requesting that, based on the successful resolution of the EMC letter ballot
comments, his No vote on the letter ballot be changed to a Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the ENDL Texas letter ballot comments,
Ralph Weber asked that his No vote on the letter ballot be changed to a Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the IBM letter ballot comments, George
Penokie asked that his No vote on the letter ballot be changed to a Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the LSI Logic letter ballot comments,
John Lohmeyer asked that his No vote on the letter ballot be changed to a Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the Seagate Technology letter ballot
comments, Gerry Houlder asked that his No vote on the letter ballot be changed
to a Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the Veritas Software letter ballot
comments, Roger Cummings asked that his No vote on the letter ballot be
changed to a Yes.
Ralph Weber took an action item to prepare OSD r10. John Lohmeyer took an
action item to forward OSD r10 to INCITS for further processing towards first
public review.
8.3 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
Erich Oetting reported SMC-2 had run into some pre-publication snags at ANSI.
The ANSI editor was unable to work with the Word Perfect for Macintosh file.
Erich Oetting converted the file to Framemaker, but there were still issues
with how the tables and figures were converted. Once these issues are
resolved, SMC-2 will go to INCITS for approval.
8.4 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SPC-3 revision 20 will be prepared based on
proposals approved by this meeting and will be posted before the next meeting
but probably not in time for the mailing. The committee agreed to move the
forwarding letter ballot date to September 2004.
8.5 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported SBC-2 revision 15 will be based on the proposals accepted
at this meeting and will be posted by Monday 26 July.
Rob Elliott requested that a letter ballot be conducted on forwarding SBC-2
revision 15 to first public review.
8.6 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
John Lohmeyer reported that SBP-3 had been published as INCITS.375:2004. He
congratulated Peter Johansson for his hard work and dedication.
8.7 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
In the absence of Cris Simpson, no report was available. John stated that he
may request that the project be withdrawn if no progress is evidenced by the
November meeting.
8.8 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that he has accepted the position of MSC editor. He
stated a plan to have revision 0 of MSC posted before the next meeting, but
not in time for the mailing.
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that MMC-4 group has encountered setbacks in resolving
MMC-4 letter ballot comments. He stated that MMC-4 should be ready for
forwarding in September.
8.10 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]
Paul Entzel reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
04-199).
8.11 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
Paul Entzel reported that the ADC letter ballot comment resolution should be
completed in time for the September meeting.
Paul note that project proposals for ADT-2 and ADC-2 will be prepared for
consideration in September or November.
8.12 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SES-2 revision 10 will be prepared including the
proposal approved by this meeting in time for the mailing. He noted that a
letter ballot should be held towards the end of the year.
8.13 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
Dave Peterson reported on the activities of the FCP-3 working group (minutes
in 04-233r0).
8.14 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that at the start of the week about 110 comments needed
input from T10 members before they could be resolved. Around 20 comments were
processed by the CAP working group (minutes in 04-215r0). Additional comments
resolution meetings are planned following this plenary meeting and again on
Friday.
A revision of the comments resolution document (04-116r3) that reflects the
resolutions agreed during this meeting week will be posted in time for the
mailing.
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SAS-1.1 revision 5 will incorporate all the
proposals approved by this meeting.
8.16 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
Dave Peterson reported on the activities of the SSC-3 working group (minutes
in 04-232r0).
8.17 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) {Project 1675-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that MMC-5 has received several presentations on new
device types to be included. He expressed confidence in the prospects for
timely completion of MMC-5 based on the bounds already placed on MMC-5 inputs.
He noted that one MMC-4 media type is already obsolete in MMC-4, owing to the
rate at which the technology changes.
8.18 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) {Project 1683-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that work on the UML diagrams for SAM-4 continues in
the CAP working group (minutes in 04-215r0) and that there will be no revisions
of SAM-4 until the SAM-3 Letter Ballot resolution is finished.
9. Old Business
There was no old business.
10. New Business
10.1 Project Proposal for SCSI to ATA Translation (SAT) Standard (04-174r3)
[Sheffield]
Bob Sheffield presented the SAT project proposal, 04-174r3. Bob Sheffield
moved that 04-174r3 be approved as a new project proposal for SCSI / ATA
Translation (SAT). Mark Evans seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a two-thirds vote of 26:0:1:14=41.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 04-174r3 to INCITS for further
processing as a new project proposal for SAT.
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAS-1.1 working group (minutes in 04-214r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-1.1:
04-029r4 (Close Port Selector Detection Gap) [Sheffield]
04-030r4 (Fix SP Hang States) [Sheffield]
04-115r2 (SAS-1.1 Miscellaneous changes) [Elliott]
04-137r2 (ST_T (transport layer for SSP target ports) state machines) [Evans]
04-170r1 (Number of Pad Bytes Fix) [Penokie]
04-165r0 (SMP functions for SGPIO) [Elliott]
04-168r1 (RRDY and CREDIT_BLOCKED clarifications) [Elliott]
04-175r2 (REPORT MANUFACTURER INFORMATION changes) [Elliott]
04-183r1 (BROADCAST (CHANGE) on virtual phy resets) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 04-170r1,
04-183r1 be approved for inclusion in
SAS-1.1. Bob Sheffield seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
25:0:4:12=41.
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAS PHY working group (minutes in 04-225r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-1.1:
04-131r1 (Miscellaneous physical layer changes) [Elliott]
04-177r2 (1.5 Gbit OOB requirements) [Penokie]
04-150r3 (TCTF update) [Cox]
Alvin Cox moved that 04-150r3 be approved for
inclusion in SAS-1.1. Rob Elliott seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 25:0:4:12=41.
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the CAP working group (minutes in 04-215r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3:
04-141r3 (Allowing only Task Management Functions through ACA) [Penokie]
03-337r7 (SPC-3 Third party persistent reservations) [Penokie]
CAP minutes (04-215r0) (Identify A2h for TRUSTED COMPUTING IN B5h for TRUSTED
COMPUTING OUT) [Weber]
04-211r1 (WORM support for streaming devices ASC/ASCQ) [Banther]
04-213r1 (TEST UNIT READY reservations correction) [Elliott]
CAP minutes (04-215r0) (Mark device types 0Ah and 0Bh Obsolete) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 04-213r1, and the
obsolete device type changes shown in the CAP minutes (04-215r0) be approved for
inclusion in SPC-3. Roger Cummings seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 25:0:2:14=41.
Ralph Weber moved that the TRUSTED COMPUTING IN/OUT operation code definitions
shown in the CAP minutes (04-215r0) be approved for inclusion in SPC-3. Gerry
Houlder seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 19:1:9:12=41.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3 and SBC-2:
04-031r3 (Miscellaneous diagnostic page topics) [Elliott]
04-011r5 (Changing Logical Block Sizes) [Penokie]
04-169r3 (Protection Information Fixes) [Penokie]
George Penokie moved that 04-031r3, 04-169r3 be approved for
inclusion in SPC-3, SBC-2, and SES-2 (for 04-031r3 only). Rob Elliott seconded
the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 25:0:4:12=41.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SBC-2:
04-171r1 (Make FORMAT UNIT operating modes optional) [Elliott]
04-164r1 (Defect descriptor wording corrections) [Elliott]
04-176r0 (New CRC figure and example C code) [Elliott]
04-192r0 (Commands during format operation) [Elliott]
CAP minutes (04-215r0) (Change the non-volatile cache log page code to 17h)
[Weber]
04-184r1 (Read Long clarification) [Houlder]
Rob Elliott moved that 04-171r1, 04-184r1, and
the log page code change shown in the CAP minutes (04-215r0) be approved for
inclusion in SBC-2. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 25:0:4:12=41.
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the FCP-3 working group (minutes in 04-233r0) were
presented to the committee.
Dave Peterson reviewed 04-154r1 (Incorrect Logical Unit Number for task
management) [Elliott] a proposal recommended for inclusion in FCP-3.
Rob Elliott moved that 04-154r1 be approved for inclusion in FCP-3. Dave
Peterson seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 25:0:4:12=41.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
In the absence of Gary Robinson, John Lohmeyer presented the ISO/IEC report
(04-210r0).
He noted that Gary had recently uploaded the following documents from the SC
25/WG 4 meeting in Chitose, Japan:
SC25/WG4Chi007 Attendance List (04-206r0) [Robinson]
SC25/WG4Chi008 Project Status (04-207r0) [Robinson]
SC25/WG4Chi009 Meeting Report (04-208r0) [Robinson]
SC25/WG4Chi010 Draft Resolutions (04-209r0) [Robinson]
Bob Snively, who also attended the Chitose meeting, added some personal praise
on the excellent hospitality of the host.
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 NWIP for SAS-1.1 (04-126r0) [Elliott]
Gary Robinson requested by email that this item be deferred to the next
meeting.
11.2.2 FDIS Ballot for FDIS 14776-220: IT - Small Computer System Interface -
Part 220: Fibre Channel Protocol for SCSI, Second Version (FCP-2)
John Lohmeyer moved to report that T10 has reviewed FDIS 14776-220: IT - Small
Computer System Interface -
Part 220: Fibre Channel Protocol for SCSI, Second Version (FCP-2) and
recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve said FDIS. Dave Peterson
seconded the motion.
The motion passed with a roll call vote of 31:0:0:10=41. Details of the roll
call vote are as follows:
Organization Voter Vote
Adaptec, Inc. Tim Symons Yes
Agilent Technologies Niels Reimers Yes
Amphenol Interconnect (not present)
Brocade Robert Snively Yes
Cisco Systems, Inc. Claudio DeSanti Yes
CNT David Peterson Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc. (not present)
Dallas Semiconductor Doug Cole Yes
Dell, Inc. Kevin Marks Yes
Dot Hill Systems Corp (not present)
EMC Corp. (not present)
Emulex Robert H. Nixon Yes
ENDL Ralph O. Weber Yes
FCI Douglas Wagner Yes
Foxconn Electronics Elwood Parsons Yes
Fujitsu (not present)
General Dynamics (not present)
Hewlett Packard Co. Rob Elliott Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester Mike Guzman Yes
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove Yes
IBM Corp. George O. Penokie Yes
Intel Corp. Robert Sheffield Yes
Iomega Corp. David Hawks Yes
LSI Logic Corp. John Lohmeyer Yes
Madison Cable Corp. (not present)
Maxtor Corp. Mark Evans Yes
Microsoft Corp. Emily Hill Yes
Molex Inc. Jerry Kachlic Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Terence J. Nelson Yes
Philips Electronics William P. McFerrin Yes
Pivot3, Inc. (not present)
PMC-Sierra Bill Lye Yes
QLogic Corp. (not present)
Quantum Corp. Paul Entzel Yes
Seagate Technology Gerald Houlder Yes
Storage Technology Corp. Erich Oetting Yes
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Vit Novak Yes
Texas Instruments Robert Kando Yes
Toshiba Yutaka Arakawa Yes
UNISYS (not present)
Veritas Software Roger Cummings Yes
This two-thirds roll call vote passed (31:0:0:10=41).
John Lohmeyer took an action item to communicate the recommendation to approve
FDIS 14776-220 to INCITS today.
11.2.3 FCD SMC 1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351 recommendation
John Lohmeyer moved to report that T10 has reviewed project ISO/IEC FCD SMC
1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351, and recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to
approve said FCD. Erich Oetting seconded the motion.
The motion passed with a roll call vote of 31:0:0:10=41. Details of the roll
call vote were identical to those in agenda item 11.2.2.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to communicate the recommendation to approve
FCD SMC 1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351 to INCITS.
11.2.4 NWIP, SCSI Block Commands-2, 14776-322, SBC-2
John Lohmeyer moved approve the NWIP, SCSI Block Commands-2, 14776-322, SBC-2
(T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25 and to approve the NP to be
issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes' and naming Gary S. Robinson as
project editor. Rob Elliott seconded the motion.
The motion passed with a roll call vote of 31:0:0:10=41. Details of the roll
call vote were identical to those in agenda item 11.2.2.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 04-125r0, an ISO NWIP for SBC-2,
to INCITS.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
Bob Snively presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/04-223r0.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. For details regarding T13 activities see www.t13.org.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
In the absence of Dal Allan no report was available.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
Marty Czekalski provided an electronic report on the activities of the SCSI
Trade Association. The report is available in 04-234r0.
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
Roger Cummings reported that the SCSI MIB is going to be the subject of an All
IETF Last Call within the next month.
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
Roger Cummings provided an electronic report in 04-235r0 that was displayed
for the committee to review.
12.8 SATA II [Cox/open]
The SATA II group has not yet designated an official liaison to T10.
Alvin Cox reported that SATA II phy has been posted publicly, meaning that
work can begin on the SAS-1.1 phy changes for 3 Gbs support.
12.9 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
In the absence of Mike Fitzpatrick, no report was available.
13. Review of Action Items
545 David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP,
CIM over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH.
571 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed
project 1.25.13.11.13: FCD 14776-351: SCSI SMC, and recommends that the
JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve said FCD.
572 After the T10 Letter Ballot on SBC-2 has closed, Gary Robinson will
inform the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed the new work item proposal, and
recommends the NWIP for SBC-2 (T10/04-125r0) as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25
and to approve the NP to be issued by SC25, answering the 6 questions 'Yes'
and naming Gary S. Robinson as project editor.
573 Ralph Weber will prepare OSD r10.
574 John Lohmeyer will forward OSD r10 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review.
575 John Lohmeyer will forward 04-174r2 to INCITS for further processing as
a new project proposal for SAT.
576 John Lohmeyer will communicate the recommendation to approve FDIS
14776-220 to INCITS today.
577 John Lohmeyer will communicate the recommendation to approve FCD SMC
1.25.13.11.13: 14776-351 to INCITS.
578 John Lohmeyer will forward 04-125r0, an ISO NWIP for SBC-2, to INCITS.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday September 16, 2004 in Nashua,
NH at the Crowne Plaza Hotel (603-886-1200), hosted by Hitachi Cable
Manchester. The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
September 2004 Meeting Map
(2004/07/15 Version)
Monday 9/13 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| ADI WG | (10)
+=======================================+
| SAS Protocol WG | (40)
+=======================================+
Tuesday 9/14 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| SAS Physical WG | (25)
+=================+=================+===+
|SCSI/ATA Trans SG| CAP WG | (40)
+===+====+==========+-+-------------+===+
| ADI WG | FCP-3 WG | STA Marcom * | (20)
+===+----+----------+---------------+---+
| T11.5 FAIS WG | (30)
+-----------------------------------+
Wednesday 9/15 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===================================+
| CAP WG | (40)
+===================================+
| MMC WG | (25)
+===============+=======+===========+
| SSC-3 | |SFF | (30)
+===============+-------+-------+---+
| STA Plenary * /Adm*/ TCC* | (20)
+---------------+---------------+---+
| T11.3 FC-SP WG | (20)
+-----------------------------------+
Thursday 9/16 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============+====================+
| T10 Plenary | LB cmnt resolution | (45/15)
+===============+===========+========+
| FCIA Board Meeting * | (12)
+---------------------------+
Friday 9/17 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+
| LB resolution | (15)
+=================+
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are closed meetings of other groups.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
ADI Calls TBD To be announced via T10 reflector
MSC Call TBD To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls Bi-weekly TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
SAT Call TBD TBA via T10 reflector / Sheffield
Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI: Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd: Amendment
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
I/F: Interface
IETF: Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
Internet standards)
iFC: Internet Fibre Channel
IPS: Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI: Internet SCSI
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP: (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
Res: Resolution
SAS: Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3: Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-2: SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5: Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP: SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2: SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2: SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP: Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10: SCSI Storage Interfaces Technical Committee
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT Paul Entzel (720) 406-5782
paul.entzel@quantum.com
ADC Rod Wideman (720) 249-5796
rod.wideman@adic.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS-1.1, MSC Rob Elliott (281) 518-5037
Elliott@hp.com
MMC-4, MMC-5 Bill McFerrin (325) 423-1560
billmc@tstar.net
SBP-3 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson@ACM.org
SAM-4 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gpenokie@tivoli.com
SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting@Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber@acm.org
SSC-3, FCP-3 Dave Peterson (763) 268-6139
david_peterson@cnt.com
SRP-2 Cris Simpson (503) 712-4333
cris.simpson@intel.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer@t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Sep 13-17, 2004 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable
Nov 8-12, 2004 Austin, TX Crossroads
Jan 17-21, 2005 Las Vegas, NV Hitachi GST
Mar 7-11, 2005 Dana Point, CA QLogic
May 2-6, 2005 Oklahoma City, OK Fujitsu
Jul 11-15, 2005 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 12-16, 2005 Vancouver, BC PMC Sierra
Nov 7-11, 2005 Austin, TX Crossroads
Proposed dates for 2006:
Jan 9-13, 2006
Mar 6-10, 2006
May 8-12, 2006
Jul 10-14, 2006
Sep 11-15, 2006
Nov 6-10, 2006
John Lohmeyer moved that the 2006 dates in the above list be approved. Mark
Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed 30:0:0:11=41.
John Lohmeyer asked people interested hosting one of the meetings in 2006 to
contact him.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of August
2004. Bob Nixon seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the
motion passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 10:45 a.m. on Thursday July 15, 2004.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Tim Symons P Adaptec, Inc. Timothy_Symons at
adaptec dot com
Mr. Niels Reimers A Agilent Technologies niels_reimers at agilent
dot com
Mr. Robert Snively P Brocade Comm. Systems, rsnively at brocade dot
Inc. com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti P Cisco Systems, Inc. cds at cisco dot com
Mr. David Peterson P CNT david_peterson at cnt
dot com
Mr. Doug Cole A Dallas Semiconductor doug dot cole at dalsemi
dot com
Mr. Kevin Marks P Dell, Inc. kevin_marks at dell dot
com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex bob dot nixon at emulex
dot com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas roweber at ieee dot org
Mr. Douglas Wagner P FCI dwagner at fciconnect
dot com
Mr. Elwood Parsons P Foxconn Electronics elwood dot parsons at
foxconn dot com
Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co. Elliott at hp dot com
Mr. Mike Guzman A Hitachi Cable Manchester mguzman at hcm dot
hitachi dot com
Mr. Dan Colegrove P Hitachi Global Storage daniel dot colegrove at
Tech. hgst dot com
Mr. Werner Glinka A Hitachi Global Storage werner dot glinka at
Tech. attglobal dot net
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems gop at us dot ibm dot com
Mr. Robert Sheffield P Intel Corp. robert dot l dot
sheffield at intel dot
com
Mr. David Hawks P Iomega Corp. hawks at iomega dot com
Mr. Joe Breher V Lingua Data joe at lingua-data dot
com
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10 dot org
Mr. Martin Czekalski A Maxtor Corp. marty_czekalski at
maxtor dot com
Mr. Mark Evans P Maxtor Corp. mark_evans at maxtor dot
com
Ms. Emily Hill P Microsoft Corp. emhill at microsoft dot
com
Mr. Jerry Kachlic A Molex Inc. jerry dot kachlic at
molex dot com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner V Ophidian Designs eag at ophidian dot com
Dr. Terence J. Nelson P Panasonic Technologies, terry at tjnelson dot com
Inc
Mr. William P. P Philips Electronics/CD billmc at tstar dot net
McFerrin Edge
Mr. Bill Galloway P Pivot3, Inc. billg at pivot3 dot com
Mr. Bill Lye A PMC-Sierra lye at pmc-sierra dot com
Mr. Craig W. Carlson A# QLogic Corp. craig dot carlson at
qlogic dot com
Mr. Paul Entzel P Quantum Corp. paul dot entzel at
quantum dot com
Mr. Alvin Cox V Seagate Technology Alvin dot Cox at seagate
dot com
Mr. Gerald Houlder P Seagate Technology gerry dot houlder at
seagate dot com
Mr. Erich Oetting P Storage Technology Corp. erich_oetting at stortek
dot com
Mr. Vit Novak P Sun Microsystems, Inc. vit dot novak at sun dot
com
Mr. Robert Kando A Texas Instruments Robert_Kando at ti dot
com
Mr. Yutaka Arakawa P Toshiba yutaka dot arakawa at
tais dot toshiba dot com
Mr. Roger Cummings P Veritas Software roger dot cummings at
veritas dot com
Mr. Curtis Stevens AV Western Digital Curtis dot Stevens at
wdc dot com
39 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
AV - Advisory Member
L - Liaison
V - Visitor