Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/05-338r0
Date: September 21, 2005
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #69 -- September 15, 2005
Vancouver, BC Canada
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - July 2005 - Colorado Springs, CO (T10/05-275r0)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) Project 1416-D [Weber]
8.3 Bridge Controller Commands (BCC) Project 1528-D [Elliott]
8.4 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) Project 1545-D [McFerrin]
8.5 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) Project 1559-D [Elliott]
8.6 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) Project 1560-D [Peterson]
8.7 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) Project 1601-D [Elliott]
8.8 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) Project 1611-D [Peterson]
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) Project 1675-D [McFerrin]
8.10 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) Project 1683-D [Penokie]
8.11 SCSI / ATA Translation (SAT) Project 1711-D [Sheffield]
8.12 Object-Based Storage Devices - 2 (OSD-2) Project 1729-D [Weber]
8.13 SCSI Media Changer Command Set - 3 (SMC-3) Project 1730-D [Banther]
8.14 SCSI Primary Commands - 4 (SPC-4) Project 1731-D [Weber]
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Project 1740-D [Elliott]
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands - 2 (ADC-2) Project 1741-D
[Suhler]
8.17 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol - 2 (ADT-2) Project
1742-D [Suhler]
8.18 Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) Project 1760-D [Elliott]
9. Old Business
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.2 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
10.3 Actions on SAT Working Group Recommendations
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
10.6 SBC-3
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
12.8 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:05 a.m.,
Thursday September 15, 2005. He thanked Rachelle Trent and Kelly Pollock of
PMC-Sierra for hosting the meeting.
John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance was
taken electronically via the meeting web site.
2. Approval of Agenda
No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
The following items were added/revised during the course of the meeting:
10.6 SBC-3
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2005 membership form (available at
http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent emails to 14 people from 7 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
05-291r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Cisco Systems, Inc.
General Dynamics
Hitachi Cable Manchester
McDATA
QLogic Corp.
Storage Technology Corp.
Symantec
John noted that Storage Technology Corp. had been acquired by Sun
Microsystems.
All other organizations in attendance jeopardy were present except:
McDATA
The representatives from organizations not present were changed to Advisory
(non-voting) status.
Rich Ramos of Xyratex requested and was granted membership at this meeting.
The T10 membership during the meeting was 45 organizations, unchanged from the
45 member organizations extant at the time the meeting was convened. Enclosure
(1) is the list of the people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the
current T10 membership list.
John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy. The current
letter ballot jeopardy status is as shown:
T10 Letter Ballot Jeopardy Report -- 2005/04/29
Ballot: 05-134r0
Report: 05-135r0
Acronym: SPC-3 SAS-1.1 FCP-3
Organization
--------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ------------
Agilent Technologies DNV Yes Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc. (*) Yes DNV DNV
QLogic Corp. DNV Yes Yes
Key:
Yes Organization voted Yes
No Organization voted No
Abs Organization voted Abstain
DNV Organization failed to return letter ballot
-- Organization was not a voting member for the letter ballot
(*) Organization is in letter ballot jeopardy (and has voluntarily changed
to Advisory status)
4. Approval of Minutes - July 2005 - Colorado Springs, CO (T10/05-275r0)
Roger Cummings reported that the July minutes incorrectly stated the date on
which meeting was called to order. The date was May 5 and it should have been
July 14.
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved with
the exception noted above. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed
unanimously.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell@itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday September 22, 2005. Documents
received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.
People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.
T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.
John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.
Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.
To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo@t10.org with the
line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.
The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:
http://www.incits.org/.
LSI Logic maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the
SCSI Trade Association at:
http://www.t10.org/
There is also a mirror site at:
http://www.t11.org/t10/
The T10 document register is available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any
potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.
For additional information on ANSI procedures and the ANSI patent policy,
please see the INCITS web page at http://www.incits.org/call.htm. The contact
for INCITS patent issues is Lynn Barra (lbarra at itic dot org) or (202)
626-5739. Gene Milligan prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's
Patents Guide", which is available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.
Bob Sheffield reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.
John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.
There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those
mentioned above.
7. Review of Old Action Items
603 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS that T10 recommends T10/04-1216r0 as a
JTC1/SC25 NWIP for 14776-151: IT - Small Computer System Interface (SCSI) -
1.1. -Part 151: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS-1.1), answering the 6 questions
'Yes' and naming Gary S. Robinson as the project editor. Complete
607 Gary Robinson will notify the JTC1/SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed FCD,
SBC-2, 14776-322, project 1.25.13.11.31 and recommends a vote to approve it.
Complete
608 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS that T10 recommends the following list
of delegates to the JTC1/SC25 and WG4 meeting September 2005 in Edinburgh, UK:
Robert Snively (head of delegation), Roger Cummings, and Claudio DeSanti.
Complete
609 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS that T10 has reviewed the following
ISs and recommends that the JTC1 TAG vote to reaffirm them: 9316-2:2000
Information Technology -- Small Computer System Interface-2 (SCSI-2) -- Part
2: Common Access Method (CAM) Transport SCSI interface module; 14776-342:2000
Information Technology -- Small Computer System Interface (SCSI) -- Part 342:
SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (SCC-2); and 14776-381:2000 Information
Technology -- Small Computer System Interface (SCSI) -- Part 381: Optical
Memory Card Device Commands (OMC). Complete
610 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS that T10 has reviewed the
14776-341:2000 Information Technology -- Small Computer System Interface-3
(SCSI-3) -- Part 341: SCSI Controller Commands (SCC) and recommends that the
JTC1 TAG vote to withdraw it. Complete
611 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS that T10 has reviewed the following
ISs and recommends that the JTC1 TAG vote to reaffirm them: 13213:1994
Information Technology -- Microprocessor systems -- Control and Status
Registers (CSR) Architecture for microcomputer buses; 15205:2000 Bus -- Chip
and module interconnect bus SBus; 13961:2000 Information Technology --
Scalable Technologies -- Interface Coherent Interface (SCI); ISO 9314-1:1989
Information Processing Systems -- Distributed Data Interface (FDDI) -- Part 1:
Token Ring Physical Layer (FDDI); ISO 9314-2:1989 Information Processing
Systems -- Fibre Distributed Data Interface (FDDI) -- Part 2: Token Ring Media
Access Control (FDDI) -- (MAC); 9314-9:2000 Information Technology -- Fibre
Distributed Data Interface (FDDI) -- Part 9: Low-cost fibre physical layer
medium dependent (LCF-PMD); 9314-21:2000 Information Technology -- Interface
Distributed Data Interface (FDDI) -- Part 21: Abstract test suite for FDDI
physical layer protocol conformance testing (FDDI PHY ATS). Complete
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.
Gary Robinson reported that INCITS will probably take over the SC25 TAG.
Gary noted that he will be unable to attend the October 11-13 INCITS meetings
in Santa Clara, but Bob Snively will represent T10, T11, and T13 at these
meetings since he is local. This is fortunate because keeping the TC's web
sites and reflectors open is an important issue for Bob.
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.
John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or production
strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
hinder a competitor in any market.
8.2 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) Project 1416-D [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that no new news had been received since the July
meeting. Publication is still anticipated in the next month or so.
8.3 Bridge Controller Commands (BCC) Project 1528-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that an issue discussed at the CAP meeting (minutes in
05-337r0) may result in more BCC activity. George Penokie noted there might be
other proposals written for BCC.
8.4 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) Project 1545-D [McFerrin]
John Lohmeyer reported that MMC-4 has been published as INCITS 401-2005. He
congratulated Bill McFerrin, the MMC-4 Project Editor.
8.5 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) Project 1559-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that no SES-2 proposals were recommended this week.
Consequently, no new revision will be generated until at least after the
November meeting.
8.6 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) Project 1560-D [Peterson]
On behalf of the absent Dave Peterson, Bob Nixon presented a report on the
activities of the FCP-3 working group (minutes in 05-343r0).
Bob Nixon moved that 05-173r5 be approved as containing the resolutions for
the FCP-3 letter ballot, that FCP-3 r04 be accepted as incorporating the
letter ballot comment resolutions, and that FCP-3 r04 be forwarded to INCITS
for further processing towards first public review. Bill Martin seconded the
motion. The motion passed 42:0:0:3=45.
Based on the successful resolution of the FCP-3 letter ballot comments George
Penokie asked that the IBM No vote on the letter ballot be changed to Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the FCP-3 letter ballot comments Gerry
Houlder asked that the Seagate No vote on the letter ballot be changed to Yes.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward FCP-3 r04 to INCITS for further
processing towards first public review.
8.7 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) Project 1601-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that in addition to the SAS-1.1 issues resolved by the
SAS Protocol working group two new issues have been discovered.
Minutes of the SAS protocol working group are in 05-335r0 and the SAS PHY
working group are in 05-354r2.
The SAS Protocol-Specific log page incorrectly shows the log page code value
as 8 bits, when it should be 6 bits. In addition, a problem in the ACK/NAK
Balance Point in transport layer frame retries required a wording correction
in one paragraph.
The committee agreed to make the necessary changes and Rob agreed to include
them in 05-169r5.
Rob Elliott moved that 05-169r5 be approved as containing the resolutions for
the SAS-1.1 letter ballot, that SAS-1.1 r10 accepted as incorporating the
letter ballot comment resolutions, and that SAS-1.1 r10 be forwarded to INCITS
for further processing towards first public review. Mark Evans seconded the
motion. The motion passed 42:0:0:3=45.
Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Kevin
Marks asked that the Dell No vote on the letter ballot be changed to Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Bob
Nixon asked that the Emulex No vote on the letter ballot be changed to Yes.
Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Rob
Elliott asked that the Hewlett Packard No vote on the letter ballot be changed
to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1 letter ballot
comments George Penokie asked that the IBM No vote on the letter ballot be
changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1 letter
ballot comments Bob Sheffield asked that the Intel No vote on the letter
ballot be changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the SAS-1.1
letter ballot comments John Lohmeyer asked that the LSI Logic No vote on the
letter ballot be changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the
SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Mark Evans asked that the Maxtor No vote on the
letter ballot be changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the
SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Jay Neer asked that the Molex No vote on the
letter ballot be changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the
SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Gerry Houlder asked that the Seagate No vote on
the letter ballot be changed to Yes. Based on the successful resolution of the
SAS-1.1 letter ballot comments Ashlie Fan asked that the Tyco No vote on the
letter ballot be changed to Yes.
Rob Elliott took an action item to prepare 05-169r5 and SAS-1.1 r10. John
Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SAS-1.1 r10 to INCITS for further
processing towards first public review.
8.8 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) Project 1611-D [Peterson]
On behalf of the absent Dave Peterson, Paul Entzel presented a report
summarizing the activities of the SSC-3 working group (minutes in 05-356r0).
8.9 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) Project 1675-D [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that the MMC-5 group spent the bulk of its time
reviewing the document as it stands. Clause 4 is almost stabilized.
8.10 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) Project 1683-D [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that a new revision of SAM-4 will be generated
incorporating all approved proposals and that the revision should be ready in
time for the mailing.
8.11 SCSI / ATA Translation (SAT) Project 1711-D [Sheffield]
Bob Sheffield reviewed the recent SAT activities (minutes in 05-323r1 and
05-336r0). SAT r06 will be prepared to incorporate all approved proposals in
time for the next mailing. The target for Letter Ballot is after the January
meeting week.
8.12 Object-Based Storage Devices - 2 (OSD-2) Project 1729-D [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that four proposals for enhancing OSD-2 have been posted
and discussed by the CAP Working Group (minutes in 05-337r0). A new OSD-2
revision will be posted when the SNIA OSD TWG decides it is ready, which will
not be in time for the mailing.
8.13 SCSI Media Changer Command Set - 3 (SMC-3) Project 1730-D [Banther]
Michael Banther reported on the activities of the SMC-3 working group (minutes
in 05-353r0). No new revision of SMC-3 is anticipated at this time.
8.14 SCSI Primary Commands - 4 (SPC-4) Project 1731-D [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SPC-4 r02 will be posted to incorporate all approved
proposals in time for the mailing.
8.15 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Project 1740-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott noted that any changes to the SDI will be handled in the CAP
working group and that no changes are currently proposed. Now that SAS-1.1 is
forwarded more SDI work may be begun.
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands - 2 (ADC-2) Project 1741-D
[Suhler]
Paul Suhler reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
05-329r1).
8.17 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol - 2 (ADT-2) Project
1742-D [Suhler]
Paul Suhler reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
05-329r1).
8.18 Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) Project 1760-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that several SAS-2 proposals have been recommended. A
SAS-2 revision will be posted containing all approved proposals, maybe in time
for the mailing.
The SAS Phy group has begun work on 6 Gbs features. SAS modeling data is being
collected for SAS-2 Phy development work. He asked interested people to
contact himself or Alvin Cox.
9. Old Business
There was no old business.
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAS protocol working group (minutes in 05-335r0)
were presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-2:
05-167r5, New NOTIFY to indicate imminent power
failure) [Evans]
05-305r0 (Maximum SMP response time) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 05-305r0 be approved for inclusion in
SAS-2. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
36:0:2:7=45.
10.2 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
There were no recommendations made by the SAS physical working group (minutes
in 05-354r2).
10.3 Actions on SAT Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAT working group (minutes in 05-336r0) were
presented to the committee.
Bob Sheffield reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAT:
05-142r4 (LOG SENSE command and SMART) [Bellamy]
05-247r3 (Add 16-byte CDBs and PIO modes) [Sheffield]
05-108r3 (SAT Task Management) [Johnson]
05-226r3 (START STOP UNIT command mapping) [Evans]
Mark Overby moved that 05-226r3 be approved
for inclusion in SAT. Bob Sheffield seconded the motion. The motion passed on
a vote of 35:0:6:4=45.
10.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the CAP working group (minutes in 05-337r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed 05-301r0 (iSCSI allows portal group tag of zero)
[Elliott] a proposal recommended for SAM-4.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for SPC-4:
05-296r0 (Persistent Reservations PREEMPT AND ABORT Clarification) [Weber]
05-331r1 (Allow Mode Sense Through Read Only Persistent Reservation) [Penokie]
05-337r0 (Change IEEE 1212-1994 reference to IEEE 1212-2001) [Weber]
George Penokie reviewed 05-313r0 (Change to background medium scan) [Houlder]
a proposal recommended for SBC-3.
George Penokie reviewed 05-299r1 (Correct Log Page Format Tables in SPC-4,
SBC-3, & SAS-2) [Weber] a proposal recommended for SPC-4, SBC-3, and SAS-2.
Ralph Weber moved that 05-296r0,
05-313r0 be approved for
SBC-3; and that 05-299r1 be approved for SPC-4, SBC-3, and SAS-2. Mark Evans
seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 42:0:0:3=45.
10.5 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
The only other working group action presented for committee consideration was
the forwarding recommendation for FCP-3 (see item 8.6).
10.6 SBC-3
George Penokie noted that proposed SBC-3 documents have been posted as
05-354r0 for r1 contents. He suggested that a
SBC-3 project proposal be prepared in time for consideration at the next
meeting.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
Gary Robinson presented the ISO/IEC report (05-332r0).
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
No new ISO business was brought before the committee.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
On behalf of the absent Bob Snively, Claudio DeSanti presented the T11 liaison
report contained in T10/05-333r0.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. New proposals have been closed for the ATA/ATAPI-8 family of standards.
For details regarding T13 activities see www.t13.org.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
In the absence of Dal Allan, no report was available.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
On behalf the absent Marty Czekalski, Harry Mason presented an electronic
report on the activities of the SCSI Trade Association available in 05-362r0.
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
David Black reported that an iSCSI Implementer's Guide document is in progress
and it will be open for inputs for at least a year. Input ideas should be sent
to the IPS reflector (ips@ietf.org). The iSER document is technically complete
but several crank-turning steps remain before it is a finished RFC.
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
Roger Cummings made an oral report to the group and provided an electronic
copy in 05-347r0.
12.8 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
Mike Fitzpatrick reported verbally on the activities of the TCG. The storage
working group meeting schedule has changed. The trusted commands are being
reviewed and enhanced in the CAP working group (minutes in 05-337r0).
13. Review of Action Items
612 John Lohmeyer will forward FCP-3 r04 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review.
613 Rob Elliott will prepare 05-169r5 and SAS-1.1 r10.
614 John Lohmeyer will forward SAS-1.1 r10 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday November 10, 2005 in Austin,
TX at the Diskill Hotel (512-474-5911) hosted by Dell, Inc. The meeting will
begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
November 2005 Meeting Map
(2005/09/15 Version)
Monday 11/07 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========+ +=====================+
| ADI-2 WG | | SMC-3 WG | (10)
+===========+=====+=====================+
| SAS Prot WG | (40)
+===============================+=======+
| Mt Fuji * | (25)
+-------------------------------+ +-------+
|STA 6GB| (60)
+-------+
Tuesday 11/08 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| SAS Physical WG | (45)
+===================================+===+
| SCSI/ATA Trans WG | (30)
+===============+---------------+===+
| STA Marcom * | (35)
+=========+=====+---------------+
|FCP-4 SG/ SSC-3 WG | (15)
+=======+=======================+
| MMC WG | (25)
+===============================+
| T11 ad hoc ??? | (15)
+-------------------------------+
Wednesday 11/09 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================================+
| CAP WG | (40)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG | (25)
+=======================+-----------+
|SFF | (30)
+----------------+------+-------+---+
| STA Plenary * / TCC* | (20)
+--------------+----------------+
| T11 ad hoc ??? | (15)
+-------------------------------+
Thursday 11/10 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============+=====================+
| T10 Plenary | T10 Editors Meeting | (50/10)
+===============+=====================+
Friday 11/11 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
No meetings planned for Friday.
/ means the next meeting starts when the previous meeting concludes
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are closed meetings of other groups.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
SAS PHY Calls TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
SAS Prot Calls TBA via T10 reflector / Elliott
SAT Call Oct 7 10 am PDT TBA via T10 reflector / Sheffield
Trusted Call Oct 12 2:00pm CDT TBA via T10 reflector / Houlder
SAT WG Mon Oct 17 9am-5pm Las Vegas, NV, CO (T13) / Sheffield
MMC WG Tue-Fri Nov 1-4 Llano, TX / McFerrin
Style Call Oct 13 TBA via T10 reflector / Penokie
Style Call Oct 27 TBA via T10 reflector / Penokie
Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI: Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd: Amendment
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
I/F: Interface
IETF: Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
Internet standards)
iFC: Internet Fibre Channel
IPS: Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI: Internet SCSI
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP: (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
Res: Resolution
SAS: Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3: Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SDI: Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-2: SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5: Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP: SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2: SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2: SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP: Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10: SCSI Storage Interfaces Technical Committee
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT, ADT-2 Paul Entzel (720) 406-5782
paul.entzel@quantum.com
ADC, ADC-2 Rod Wideman (720) 249-5796
rod.wideman@adic.com
SBC-2,SES-2,SAS-1.1,SAS-2, Rob Elliott (281) 518-5037
BCC,SDI Elliott@hp.com
MMC-4, MMC-5 Bill McFerrin (325) 423-1560
billmc@tstar.net
SBP-3 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson@ACM.org
SAM-4 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop@us.ibm.com
SAT Bob Sheffield (480) 554-8597
robert.l.sheffield@intel.com
SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting@Stortek.com
SMC-3 Noud Snelder +31408446108
Noud.snelder@bdt.de
SPC-3, SAM-3, SPC-4, OSD-2 Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber@acm.org
SSC-3, FCP-3 Dave Peterson (763) 268-6139
david.peterson@mcdata.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer@t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Nov 7-11, 2005 Austin, TX Dell Computer
Jan 9-13, 2006 Phoenix, AZ Intel Corp.
Mar 6-10, 2006 Hilton Head, SC SCSI Trade Association
May 8-12, 2006 Seattle, WA Nvidia Corp.
Jul 10-14, 2006 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 11-15, 2006 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable Manchester
Nov 6-10, 2006 Las Vegas, NV Hitachi GST
Approved dates for 2007:
Jan 15-19, 2007 Orlando, FL Symantec
Mar 12-16, 2007
May 7-11, 2007
Jul 9-13, 2007 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 17-21, 2007 (to avoid conflicts with the Jewish High Holy Days)
Nov 5-9, 2007
Proposed dates for 2008:
Jan 14-18, 2008
Mar 10-14, 2008
May 5-9, 2008
Jul 14-18, 2008
Sep 8-12, 2008
Nov 3-7, 2008
John Lohmeyer asked people interested hosting one of the above meetings to
contact him.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Kevin Marks moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
October 2005. Erich Oetting seconded the motion. In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 10:55 a.m. on Thursday September 15, 2005.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization
------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------
Mr. William Lynn P Adaptec, Inc.
Ms. Pat Thaler P Agilent Technologies
Mr. Ron Roberts A Broadcom Corp.
Mr. Steven Wilson A Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc.
Dr. Claudio DeSanti P Cisco Systems, Inc.
Mr. Doug Cole A Dallas Semiconductor
Mr. Kevin Marks P Dell, Inc.
Mr. David Black A EMC Corp.
Mr. Gary S. Robinson P EMC Corp.
Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas
Mr. Douglas Wagner P FCI
Mr. Elwood Parsons P Foxconn Electronics
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick P Fujitsu
Mr. Nathan Hastad P General Dynamics
Mr. Michael Banther V Hewlett Packard Co.
Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co.
Mr. Mike Guzman A Hitachi Cable Manchester
Mr. Dan Colegrove P Hitachi Global Storage Tech.
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems
Mr. Robert Sheffield P Intel Corp.
Mr. Fernando Gomez V LeCroy Corporation
Mr. Mike Micheletti V LeCroy Corporation
Mr. Martin Furuhjelm A Lexar Media, Inc.
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp.
Mr. Harry Mason V LSI Logic Corp.
Mr. Avraham Shimor P M-Systems
Mr. Mark Evans P Maxtor Corp.
Mr. David Walp V Microsoft Corp
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc.
Mr. Mark Overby P Nvidia Corp.
Mr. James Williams AV Oracle
Dr. Terence J. Nelson P Panasonic Technologies, Inc
Mr. William P. McFerrin P Philips Electronics/CD Edge
Mr. Tim Symons P PMC-Sierra
Mr. Craig W. Carlson A QLogic Corp.
Mr. Paul Entzel P Quantum Corp.
Dr. Paul Suhler A Quantum Corp.
Mr. Alvin Cox V Seagate Technology
Mr. Gerald Houlder P Seagate Technology
Mr. William Martin P Sierra Logic, Inc.
Mr. Vit Novak P Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Mr. Erich Oetting A# Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Mr. Roger Cummings P Symantec
Mr. Robert Kando A Texas Instruments
Mr. Yutaka Arakawa P Toshiba
Ms. Ashlie Fan P TycoElectronics
Mr. Dan Gorenc A TycoElectronics
Mr. David Allen A Vitesse Semiconductor
Mr. Curtis Stevens P Western Digital
Mr. Jeff Williams P Xiotech Corp.
Mr. Rich Ramos V Xyratex
52 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
AV - Advisory Member
L - Liaison
V - Visitor