Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/05-420r0
Date: November 17, 2005
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #70 -- November 10, 2005
Austin, TX
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - September 2005 - Vancouver, BC, Canada
(T10/05-338r0)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) Project 1416-D [Weber]
8.3 Bridge Controller Commands (BCC) Project 1528-D [Elliott]
8.4 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) Project 1559-D [Elliott]
8.5 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) Project 1560-D [Peterson]
8.6 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) Project 1601-D [Elliott]
8.7 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) Project 1611-D [Peterson]
8.8 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) Project 1675-D [McFerrin]
8.9 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) Project 1683-D [Penokie]
8.10 SCSI / ATA Translation (SAT) Project 1711-D [Sheffield]
8.11 Object-Based Storage Devices - 2 (OSD-2) Project 1729-D [Weber]
8.12 SCSI Media Changer Command Set - 3 (SMC-3) Project 1730-D [Banther]
8.13 SCSI Primary Commands - 4 (SPC-4) Project 1731-D [Weber]
8.14 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Project 1740-D [Elliott]
8.15 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands - 2 (ADC-2) Project 1741-D
[Suhler]
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol - 2 (ADT-2) Project
1742-D [Suhler]
8.17 Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) Project 1760-D [Elliott]
9. Old Business
10. New Business
10.1 Project Proposal for SCSI Block Commands - 3 (SBC-3) (05-382r0)
[Penokie]
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
10.4 Actions on SAT Working Group Recommendations
10.5 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.6 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 NWIP for SPC-3 (05-411r0) [Robinson]
11.2.2 FDIS Approval for SBC-2 [Robinson]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
12.8 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
12.9 IEEE P1667 Authentication Standard for Transient Storage Devices
(05-399r2) [Shimor]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday November 10, 2005. He thanked Kevin Marks of Dell for hosting the
meeting.
John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance was
taken electronically via the meeting web site.
2. Approval of Agenda
The following additions/changes were made to the draft agenda:
11.2.2 FDIS Approval for SBC-2 [Robinson]
12.9 IEEE P1667 Authentication Standard for Transient Storage Devices
(05-399r2) [Shimor]
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2005 membership form (available at
http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent emails to 4 people from 3 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
05-367r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Iomega Corp.
Pivot3, Inc.
Symantec
All organizations in attendance jeopardy were present.
Had any of the organizations had not been present their representatives would
have been changed to Advisory (non-voting) status.
John Lohmeyer called for requests to join at this meeting. AMCC and Oracle
joined at this meeting
The T10 membership during the meeting was 47 organizations, up from the 45
member organizations extant at the time the meeting was convened. Enclosure
(1) is the list of the people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the
current T10 membership list.
John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy. The current
letter ballot jeopardy status is as shown:
T10 Letter Ballot Jeopardy Report -- 2005/04/29
Ballot: 05-134r0
Report: 05-135r0
Acronym: SPC-3 SAS-1.1 FCP-3
Organization
--------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ------------
Agilent Technologies DNV Yes Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc. (*) Yes DNV DNV
QLogic Corp. DNV Yes Yes
Key:
Yes Organization voted Yes
No Organization voted No
Abs Organization voted Abstain
DNV Organization failed to return letter ballot
-- Organization was not a voting member for the letter ballot
(*) Organization is in letter ballot jeopardy (and has voluntarily changed
to Advisory status)
4. Approval of Minutes - September 2005 - Vancouver, BC, Canada
(T10/05-338r0)
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved as
written. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell@itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday November 17, 2005. Documents
received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.
People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.
T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.
John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.
Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.
To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo@t10.org with the
line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.
The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:
http://www.incits.org/.
LSI Logic maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the
SCSI Trade Association at:
http://www.t10.org/
There is also a mirror site at:
http://www.t11.org/t10/
The T10 document register is available at:
http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any
potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.
For additional information on ANSI procedures and the ANSI patent policy,
please see the INCITS web page at http://www.incits.org/call.htm. The contact
for INCITS patent issues is Lynn Barra (lbarra at itic dot org) or (202)
626-5739. Gene Milligan prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's
Patents Guide", which is available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.
John Lohmeyer noted that LSI Logic submitted 05-388r0 stating their position
regarding US Patent 6,925,519, which may be applicable to the proposed SAT
standard.
Bob Sheffield reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.
John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.
There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those
mentioned above.
7. Review of Old Action Items
612 John Lohmeyer will forward FCP-3 r04 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review. Complete.
613 Rob Elliott will prepare 05-169r5 and SAS-1.1 r10. Complete.
614 John Lohmeyer will forward SAS-1.1 r10 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review. Complete.
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/inatrust.htm.
John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or production
strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
hinder a competitor in any market.
8.2 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) Project 1416-D [Weber]
John Lohmeyer reported that SPC-3 has been published as ANSI INCITS 408-2005.
He congratulated Ralph Weber, the project editor.
8.3 Bridge Controller Commands (BCC) Project 1528-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that there has been no activity on BCC.
8.4 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) Project 1559-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that a new SES-2 revision will be posted incorporating
the proposals approved by this meeting.
8.5 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) Project 1560-D [Peterson]
John Lohmeyer reported that the public review on FCP-3 ends 2 January 2006.
Dave Peterson reported that an FCP-4 project proposal will reviewed and
amended during the January meeting week and presented for approval in March. A
Study Group was held this meeting week (minutes in 05-435r0) and agreed on the
need for an FCP-4 project as well as some of the goals of the project.
8.6 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) Project 1601-D [Elliott]
John Lohmeyer reported that the public review on SAS-1.1 ends 2 January 2006.
8.7 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) Project 1611-D [Peterson]
Dave Peterson presented a report summarizing the activities of the SSC-3
working group (minutes in 05-434r0).
SSC-3 r1e containing all approved proposals has been posted to the web site in
plenty of time for the mailing.
The working group requested establishment of a T10 Study Group to discuss key
management to coordinate with IEEE P1619. A meeting of the Study Group was in
the process of being planned for the T11 meeting week in Garden Grove, CA in
December. Michael Banther took responsibility for announcing the meeting and a
pre-meeting teleconference on the reflector.
8.8 MultiMedia Command Set - 5 (MMC-5) Project 1675-D [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that a four-day editing session reviewed three-fourths
of the document.
Incompatibilities have surfaced between ATAPI and actual implementations and
the MMC-5 working group is planning joint meeting with T13 on Tuesday of the
January T10 meeting week to address the issues.
The group is working only on document review. No new proposals are being
considered at this time. MMC-5 will be ready for Letter Ballot in early 2006.
Plans are already beginning for MMC-6.
8.9 SCSI Architecture Model - 4 (SAM-4) Project 1683-D [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that a new revision of SAM-4 will be generated
incorporating all approved proposals, but probably not in time for the
mailing.
8.10 SCSI / ATA Translation (SAT) Project 1711-D [Sheffield]
Bob Sheffield reviewed the recent SAT activities (minutes in 05-387r0,
05-418r0). SAT r07 will be prepared to incorporate all approved proposals in
time for the next mailing. The target for Letter Ballot is after the January
meeting week.
8.11 Object-Based Storage Devices - 2 (OSD-2) Project 1729-D [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that the SNIA TWG is nearing resolution on the Exception
Management and Snapshots topics. The chances of uploading a new revision
before January were estimated to be nil.
8.12 SCSI Media Changer Command Set - 3 (SMC-3) Project 1730-D [Banther]
Michael Banther reported on the activities of the SMC-3 working group (minutes
in 05-431r1). No new revision of SMC-3 is anticipated at this time.
8.13 SCSI Primary Commands - 4 (SPC-4) Project 1731-D [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SPC-4 r03 will be posted to incorporate all approved
proposals before the January meeting but not in time for the mailing.
8.14 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Project 1740-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott noted that any changes to the SDI will be handled in the CAP
working group and that no changes are currently proposed.
8.15 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands - 2 (ADC-2) Project 1741-D
[Suhler]
Paul Suhler reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
05-408r0). A new revision of ADC-2 will be posted in time for the mailing.
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol - 2 (ADT-2) Project
1742-D [Suhler]
Paul Suhler reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
05-408r0).
8.17 Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) Project 1760-D [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that several SAS-2 proposals have been recommended. A
SAS-2 revision will be posted containing all approved proposals, maybe in time
for the mailing.
9. Old Business
There was no old business.
10. New Business
10.1 Project Proposal for SCSI Block Commands - 3 (SBC-3) (05-382r0) [Penokie]
John Lohmeyer presented a project proposal for SBC-3 05-382r0.
John Lohmeyer moved that 05-382r0 be forwarded to INCITS as a new project
proposal for SBC-3. George Penokie seconded the motion. The motion passed
32:0:0:15=47.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 05-382r0 to INCITS as a new
project proposal for SBC-3.
10.2 Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAS protocol working group (minutes in 05-417r0)
were presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-2:
04-222r6 (More Phy Test Patterns) [Elliott]
05-306r2 (STP connection time limits) [Elliott]
05-412r0 (Revision 0 minor corrections) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 05-412r0 be approved for inclusion in
SAS-2. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
29:0:5:13=47.
Rob Elliott moved that 04-222r6 be approved for inclusion in SAS-2. Bill
Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 19:0:14:14=47.
George Penokie reviewed 05-370r1 (NOTIFY (POWER FAILURE EXPECTED) Fixes)
[Penokie] a proposal recommended for inclusion in SAS-2, SAM-4, and SPC-4 he
noted that the CAP re-reviewed the proposal, modified it, and re-recommended
it. The committee agreed to process 05-370r2 as a CAP recommendation.
10.3 Actions on SAS PHY Working Group Recommendations
There were no recommendations made by the SAS physical working group (minutes
in 05-433r0).
10.4 Actions on SAT Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the SAT working group (minutes in 05-418r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie and Bob Sheffield reviewed the following proposals recommended
for inclusion in SAT:
05-359r2 (Control mode page translation) [Overby]
05-364r0 (Comparison of SCSI and ATA queuing) [Weber]
05-385r1 (MOST RECENT TEMPERATURE READING for Informational Exceptions log
page) [Bellamy]
Mark Overby moved that 05-385r1 be approved for
inclusion in SAT. Curtis Stevens seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 27:0:3:17=47.
10.5 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
The recommendations from the CAP working group (minutes in 05-419r0) were
presented to the committee.
George Penokie reviewed 05-376r5 (Addressing more than 16384 logical units)
[Penokie] a proposal recommended for inclusion in SAM-4.
George Penokie moved that 05-376r5 be approved for inclusion in SAM-4. Bill
Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 29:0:4:14=47.
George Penokie and Ralph Weber reviewed the following proposals recommended
for inclusion in SPC-4:
05-242r2 (Combinations of bits and fields in the LOG SELECT CDB and log
parameters) [Evans]
05-360r2 (Extended self test completion time value update) [Overby]
05-375r1 (EBACKERR bit Error Reporting Clarification) [Penokie]
05-379r0 (Unit attention condition trivial wording changes) [Elliott]
05-380r0 (Mode Page Policy MLUS bit correction) [Elliott]
05-406r1 (New ASC/ASCQs for Device Port Address) [Galloway]
Bill Galloway moved that 05-380r0, and
05-406r1 be approved for inclusion in SPC-4. Rob Elliott seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a vote of 32:0:2:13=47.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for SPC-4 and
SBC-3:
05-156r7 (Application ownership of protection information Reference Tag)
[Penokie]
05-374r2 (Disabling Reassign on Write Long Logical Blocks) [Penokie]
George Penokie moved that 05-156r7 be approved for SPC-4 and SBC-3. Bob Nixon
seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 22:4:8:13=47.
George Penokie moved that 05-374r2 be approved for SPC-4 and SBC-3. Kevin
Marks seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 21:1:11:14=47.
George Penokie reviewed 05-370r2 (NOTIFY (POWER FAILURE EXPECTED) Fixes)
[Penokie] a proposal recommended for inclusion in SAS-2, SAM-4, and SPC-4.
George Penokie moved that 05-370r2 be approved for inclusion in SAS-2, SAM-4,
and SPC-4. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
29:0:4:14=47.
George Penokie reviewed 05-317r3 (Remove Attached Media Changer model)
[Entzel] a proposal recommended for inclusion in SPC-4, SMC-3, SBC-3, and
SSC-3.
George Penokie and Rob Elliott reviewed the following proposals recommended
for inclusion in SES-2:
05-300r0 (Add RQST MISSING to DEVICE and ARRAY DEVICE element Control page)
[Marks]
05-372r0 (Cooling element enlarge Actual Fan Speed field) [Elliott]
05-400r0 (Update Table 116 - CONNECTOR TYPE field to SAS-1.1 names) [Marks]
Kevin Marks moved that 05-317r3 be approved for inclusion in SPC-4, SMC-3,
SBC-3, and SSC-3 and that 05-400r0 be approved for
inclusion in SES-2. Paul Entzel seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 32:0:1:14=47.
10.6 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
No recommendations were brought to the committee from other working groups.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
Gary Robinson presented the ISO/IEC report (05-410r1).
Gary Robinson took an action item to prepare an NWIP for FCP-3.
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 NWIP for SPC-3 (05-411r0) [Robinson]
Gary Robinson moved that T10 recommends that the SC25 TAG contribute an NWIP
(05-411r0) to SC25 for SPC-3 as project 1.25.13.11.33, 14776-453, mark YES on
each of the 6 questions, define Gary S Robinson as Project Editor in question
4, normal standard development track is proposed in question 7, and when the
NWIP ballot is available; to vote Approve. Bill Martin seconded the motion.
The motion passed on roll call vote of 34:0:2:11:=47, the details of which
were as follows:
Organization Voter Vote
Adaptec, Inc. (not present)
Agilent Technologies Pat Thaler Yes
AMCC Paul von Stamwitz Abstain
Amphenol Interconnect (not present)
Broadcom Corp. Ron Roberts Yes
Brocade (not present)
Cisco Systems, Inc. (not present)
Dallas Semiconductor (not present)
Dell, Inc. Kevin Marks Yes
EMC Corp. Gary S. Robinson Yes
Emulex Robert H. Nixon Yes
ENDL Ralph O. Weber Yes
FCI Douglas Wagner Yes
Foxconn Electronics Elwood Parsons Yes
Fujitsu (not present)
General Dynamics (not present)
Hewlett Packard Co. Rob Elliott Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester (not present)
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove Yes
IBM Corp. George O. Penokie Yes
Intel Corp. Robert Sheffield Yes
Iomega Corp. Robert Payne Yes
Lexar Media, Inc. Pat LaVarre Abstain
LSI Logic Corp. John Lohmeyer Yes
M-Systems Avraham Shimor Yes
Maxtor Corp. Martin Czekalski Yes
Microsoft Corp. Emily Hill Yes
Molex Inc. Jay Neer Yes
Nvidia Corp. Mark Overby Yes
Oracle James Williams Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Terence J. Nelson Yes
Philips Electronics William P. McFerrin Yes
Pivot3, Inc. Bill Galloway Yes
PMC-Sierra Tim Symons Yes
QLogic Corp. (not present)
Quantum Corp. Paul Entzel Yes
Seagate Technology Gerald Houlder Yes
Sierra Logic, Inc. William Martin Yes
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Erich Oetting Yes
Symantec Greg Wheeless Yes
Texas Instruments Robert Kando Yes
Toshiba (not present)
TycoElectronics Ashlie Fan Yes
Vitesse Semiconductor (not present)
Western Digital Curtis Stevens Yes
Xiotech Corp. Jeff Williams Yes
Xyratex Rich Ramos Yes
This two-thirds roll call vote passed (34:0:2:11=47).
Gary Robinson took an action item to forward 05-411r0 to the SC25 TAG as an
NWIP contribution for SPC-3 as project 1.25.13.11.33, 14776-453, to mark YES
on each of the 6 questions, define Gary S Robinson as Project Editor in
question 4, and normal standard development track is proposed in question 7.
11.2.2 FDIS Approval for SBC-2 [Robinson]
Gary Robinson moved that T10 has reviewed the FDIS, 1.25.13.11.31 SBC-2
14776-322,and recommends that the JTC1 TAG vote to approve said FDIS. Bill
Martin seconded the motion. The motion passed on roll call vote of
34:0:2:11:=47, the details of which were as follows:
Organization Voter Vote
Adaptec, Inc. (not present)
Agilent Technologies Pat Thaler Yes
AMCC Paul von Stamwitz Abstain
Amphenol Interconnect (not present)
Broadcom Corp. Ron Roberts Yes
Brocade (not present)
Cisco Systems, Inc. (not present)
Dallas Semiconductor (not present)
Dell, Inc. Kevin Marks Yes
EMC Corp. Gary S. Robinson Yes
Emulex Robert H. Nixon Yes
ENDL Ralph O. Weber Yes
FCI Douglas Wagner Yes
Foxconn Electronics Elwood Parsons Yes
Fujitsu (not present)
General Dynamics (not present)
Hewlett Packard Co. Rob Elliott Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester (not present)
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove Yes
IBM Corp. George O. Penokie Yes
Intel Corp. Robert Sheffield Yes
Iomega Corp. Robert Payne Yes
Lexar Media, Inc. Pat LaVarre Abstain
LSI Logic Corp. John Lohmeyer Yes
M-Systems Avraham Shimor Yes
Maxtor Corp. Martin Czekalski Yes
Microsoft Corp. Emily Hill Yes
Molex Inc. Jay Neer Yes
Nvidia Corp. Mark Overby Yes
Oracle James Williams Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Terence J. Nelson Yes
Philips Electronics William P. McFerrin Yes
Pivot3, Inc. Bill Galloway Yes
PMC-Sierra Tim Symons Yes
QLogic Corp. (not present)
Quantum Corp. Paul Entzel Yes
Seagate Technology Gerald Houlder Yes
Sierra Logic, Inc. William Martin Yes
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Erich Oetting Yes
Symantec Greg Wheeless Yes
Texas Instruments Robert Kando Yes
Toshiba (not present)
TycoElectronics Ashlie Fan Yes
Vitesse Semiconductor (not present)
Western Digital Curtis Stevens Yes
Xiotech Corp. Jeff Williams Yes
Xyratex Rich Ramos Yes
This two-thirds roll call vote passed (34:0:2:11=47).
Gary Robinson took an action item to inform the SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed
the FDIS, 1.25.13.11.31 SBC-2 14776-322,and recommends that the JTC1 TAG vote
to approve said FDIS.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
Although he could not attend, Bob Snively provided an electronic liaison
report in T10/05-394r0. The committee waved the reading of the T11 liaison
report by unanimous consent.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. The ATA-8 architecture model is in Letter Ballot. New features continue
to be integrated in the ATA/ATAPI-8 family of standards. For details regarding
T13 activities see www.t13.org.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
In the absence of Dal Allan, no report was available.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
Marty Czekalski presented an electronic report (05-437r0) on the activities of
the SCSI Trade Association.
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
In the absence of David Black no report was available.
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
In the absence of Roger Cummings no report was available.
12.8 Trusted Computing Group [Fitzpatrick]
No report was presented.
12.9 IEEE P1667 Authentication Standard for Transient Storage Devices
(05-399r2) [Shimor]
Avraham Shimor presented an overview of the new P1667 standards effort in IEEE
(05-399r2). The goal of the effort is to define a security mechanism for
developing trust relationships between portable storage devices (e.g., USB
disks, mobile phones, and PDAs) and the computers (operating systems) to which
they may connect.
13. Review of Action Items
615 John Lohmeyer will forward 05-382r0 to INCITS as a new project proposal
for SBC-3.
616 Gary Robinson will prepare an NWIP for FCP-3.
617 Gary Robinson will forward 05-411r0 to the SC25 TAG as an NWIP
contribution for SPC-3 as project 1.25.13.11.33, 14776-453, to mark YES on
each of the 6 questions, define Gary S Robinson as Project Editor in question
4, and normal standard development track is proposed in question 7.
618 Gary Robinson will inform the SC25 TAG that T10 has reviewed the FDIS,
1.25.13.11.31 SBC-2 14776-322,and recommends that the JTC1 TAG vote to approve
said FDIS.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday January 12, 2006 in
Scottsdale, AZ at the Embassy Suites Hotel Phoenix - Scottsdale (Reservations:
http://www.b-there.com/arm/t10phx2006) hosted by Intel. The meeting will
begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
January 2006 Meeting Map
Monday 1/09 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========+===========================+
| ADI-2 WG / SMC-3 WG | (10)
+===========+===========================+
| SAS Prot WG | (40)
+=======================================+
| MMC WG |
+=======================================+-------+
|STA 6GB| (60)
+-------+
Tuesday 1/10 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=======================================+
| SAS Physical WG | (45)
+=============+=+===================+===+
| SAT WG | | CAP WG | (40)
+=============+ +===============+===+
| STA Marcom * | (35)
+=========+=====+---------------+
|FCP-4 SG/ SSC-3 WG | (15)
+=======+=======+===============+
| MMC WG | Joint MMC/T13 | (25)
+===============+===============+
Wednesday 1/11 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================================+
| CAP WG | (40)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG | (25)
+=======================+-----------+
|SFF | (30)
+----------------+------+-------+---+
| STA Plenary * / TCC* | (20)
+--------------+----------------+
Thursday 1/12 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============+=====================+
| T10 Plenary | Key Mgmt SG | (50/10)
+===============+=======+=============+
|Lock SG| (15)
+=======+
Friday 1/13 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
No meetings planned for Friday.
/ means the next meeting starts when the previous meeting concludes
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are closed meetings of other groups.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
SAS PHY Calls TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
SAS Prot Calls TBA via T10 reflector / Elliott
Style Call Dec 1 10:00a CST Announced via T10 reflector / Penokie
SAS PHY Call Dec 1 10:00a CST TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
SAS Prot Call Dec 2 10:00a CST TBA via T10 reflector / Elliott
Key Mgmt Call Nov ?? TBA via T10 reflector / Wheeless
Key Mgmt SG Dec ?? Garden Grove, CA with T11 / Wheeless
SAT WG Dec 12 Las Vegas, NV with T13 / Colegrove
SAS PHY Call Dec 15 10:00a CST TBA via T10 reflector / Cox
Style Call Jan 5 10:00a CST Announced via T10 reflector / Penokie
SAT WG Feb 28 Tentative Denver DIA / Overby
Map Abbreviation Key:
ad hoc: a.k.a., working group
ADI: Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd: Amendment
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
FC: Fibre Channel
I/F: Interface
IETF: Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
Internet standards)
iFC: Internet Fibre Channel
IPS: Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI: Internet SCSI
LB: Letter Ballot
Lock SG: Study Group to examine need for Locking removable storage devices
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
PH or PHY: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Prot: Protocol
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
Res: Resolution
SAS: Serial Attached SCSI
SAT: SCSI / ATA Translation
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SDI: Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-3: SCSI Medium Changer - 3 Commands
SPC-4: SCSI Primary Commands - 4 (4th generation)
SSC-3: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
STA: SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STP: Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10: SCSI Storage Interfaces Technical Committee
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT, ADT-2 Paul Entzel (720) 406-5782
paul.entzel@quantum.com
ADC, ADC-2 Rod Wideman (720) 249-5796
rod.wideman@adic.com
SBC-2,SES-2,SAS-1.1,SAS-2, Rob Elliott (281) 518-5037
BCC,SDI Elliott@hp.com
MMC-4, MMC-5 Bill McFerrin (325) 423-1560
billmc@tstar.net
SBP-3 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson@ACM.org
SAM-4, SBC-3 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop@us.ibm.com
SAT Bob Sheffield (480) 554-8597
robert.l.sheffield@intel.com
SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting@Stortek.com
SMC-3 Noud Snelder +31408446108
Noud.snelder@bdt.de
SPC-3, SAM-3, SPC-4, OSD-2 Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber@acm.org
SSC-3, FCP-3 Dave Peterson (763) 268-6139
david.peterson@mcdata.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer@t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Jan 9-13, 2006 Phoenix, AZ Intel Corp.
Mar 6-10, 2006 Hilton Head, SC SCSI Trade Association
May 8-12, 2006 Seattle, WA Nvidia Corp.
Jul 10-14, 2006 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 11-15, 2006 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable Manchester
Nov 6-10, 2006 Las Vegas, NV Hitachi GST
Approved dates for 2007:
Jan 15-19, 2007 Orlando, FL Symantec
Mar 12-16, 2007
May 7-11, 2007
Jul 9-13, 2007 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 17-21, 2007 (to avoid conflicts with the Jewish High Holy Days)
Nov 5-9, 2007
Proposed dates for 2008:
Jan 14-18, 2008
Mar 10-14, 2008
May 5-9, 2008
Jul 14-18, 2008
Sep 8-12, 2008
Nov 3-7, 2008
John Lohmeyer asked people interested hosting one of the above meetings to
contact him.
John Lohmeyer moved that the 2008 meeting dates be approved. Curtis Stevens
seconded the motion. In the absence of objections, the motion passed
unanimously.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
December 2005. Curtis Stevens seconded the motion. In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 11:00 a.m. on Thursday November 10, 2005.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization
------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------
Ms. Pat Thaler P Agilent Technologies
Mr. Paul von Stamwitz P AMCC
Mr. Ron Roberts A Broadcom Corp.
Mr. Kevin Marks P Dell, Inc.
Mr. Gary S. Robinson P EMC Corp.
Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas
Mr. Douglas Wagner P FCI
Mr. Elwood Parsons P Foxconn Electronics
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick P Fujitsu
Mr. Michael Banther V Hewlett Packard Co.
Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co.
Mr. Dan Colegrove P Hitachi Global Storage Tech.
Mr. James Rockrohr V IBM
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems
Mr. Robert Sheffield P Intel Corp.
Mr. Robert Payne P Iomega Corp.
Mr. Pat LaVarre P Lexar Media, Inc.
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp.
Mr. Avraham Shimor P M-Systems
Mr. Greg Elkins V Marvell Semiconductor
Mr. Martin Czekalski A Maxtor Corp.
Mr. David Peterson AV McDATA
Ms. Emily Hill P Microsoft Corp.
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc.
Mr. Mark Overby P Nvidia Corp.
Mr. James Williams P Oracle
Dr. Terence J. Nelson P Panasonic Technologies, Inc
Mr. William P. McFerrin P Philips Electronics/CD Edge
Mr. Bill Galloway P Pivot3, Inc.
Mr. Tim Symons P PMC-Sierra
Mr. Paul Entzel P Quantum Corp.
Dr. Paul Suhler A Quantum Corp.
Mr. Alvin Cox V Seagate Technology
Mr. Gerald Houlder P Seagate Technology
Mr. William Martin P Sierra Logic, Inc.
Mr. Erich Oetting A# Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Mr. Greg Wheeless A Symantec
Mr. Robert Kando A Texas Instruments
Ms. Ashlie Fan P TycoElectronics
Mr. Dan Gorenc A TycoElectronics
Mr. Wayne Gentry V Unisys Corporation
Mr. David Allen A Vitesse Semiconductor
Mr. Curtis Stevens P Western Digital
Mr. Jeff Williams P Xiotech Corp.
Mr. Rich Ramos P Xyratex
46 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
AV - Advisory Member
L - Liaison
V - Visitor