Accredited Standards Committee*

InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

 

 

Doc. No.:

T10/08-352r0

 

 

Date:

September 9, 2008

 

 

Reply to:

John Lohmeyer

 

 

 

 

To:

T10 Membership

 

 

From:

Ralph Weber and John Lohmeyer

 

 

Subject:

SAS Protocol WG -- September 8, 2008

 

 

Colorado Springs, CO

 

Agenda

1. Opening Remarks

2. Approval of Agenda

3. Attendance and Membership

4. Miscellaneous topics

5. SAS-2 letter ballot comment resolution topics

5.1 SAS-2 revision 14 letter ballot comment resolution as of sas2r14 (08-212r4) [Elliott]

5.2 SAS2r14c: Fixes for confirmations and requests (08-343r0) [Penokie]

5.3 SAS-2 ZONE GROUP VALID bit (08-360r2) [Symons]

5.4 SAS-2 SNW-3 SATA port selector confusion (08-283r1) [Elliott]

5.5 SAS-2 SL_CC transition wording fixes (08-293r0) [Penokie]

6. Zoning topics

7. Non-zoning Expander topics

8. SAS Protocol Layer (SPL) topics

8.1 SAS-2 Far-end retimed loopback phy test function (07-119r5) [Elliott]

8.2 SAS: Add low power transceiver options (08-015r4) [Houlder]

8.3 Review of new SAS Project Proposals (08-118r1) [Elliott and Butt]

8.4 SAS-2+, low power transceiver options, phy and link states (08-206r0) [Evans]

8.5 SAS 2.+ Link Layer Power Management (08-249r1) [Day]

8.6 SAS-2 SPC-4 Differentiate between ACK NAK timeout reasons (08-064r1) [Elliott]

8.7 Questions about SAS Interface Power Management proposal, 08-370r0) [Houlder]

9. New Business

10. Review of Recommendations

11. Meeting Schedule

12. Adjournment

Results of Meeting

1. Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. Monday, September 8, 2008. He thanked LSI for hosting the meeting. As usual, the people present introduced themselves.

2. Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with no additions and changes.

The following additions and changes were made during the course of the meeting:

8.7 Questions about SAS Interface Power Management proposal, 08-370r0) [Houlder]

3. Attendance and Membership

Attendance at working group meetings does not count toward minimum attendance requirements for T10 membership. Working group meetings are open to any person or organization directly and materially affected by T10's scope of work. The following people attended the meeting:

 
              Name                   S           Organization
------------------------------------ -- ------------------------------------
Mr. Paul von Stamwitz                P  AMCC                                
Mr. Kevin Marks                      P  Dell, Inc.                          
Mr. William Martin                   P  Emulex                              
Mr. Ralph O. Weber                   P  ENDL Texas                          
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick                 P  Fujitsu                             
Mr. Rob Elliott                      P  Hewlett Packard Co.                 
Mr. Dan Colegrove                    P  Hitachi Global Storage Tech.        
Mr. Pak Seto                         V  Intel Corp.                         
Mr. Dennis Moore                     P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.                  
Mr. Brad Besmer                      A  LSI Corp.                           
Mr. Brian Day                        A  LSI Corp.                           
Mr. John Lohmeyer                    P  LSI Corp.                           
Mr. George Penokie                   A  LSI Corp.                           
Mr. Gregory Tabor                    P  Maxim Integrated Products           
Mr. Chris Fore                       A  NetApp                              
Mr. Tim Symons                       P  PMC-Sierra                          
Mr. Alvin Cox                        A  Seagate Technology                  
Mr. Gerald Houlder                   P  Seagate Technology                  
Mr. Halvard Eriksen                  AV Tandberg Storage                    
Mr. Mark Evans                       P  Western Digital                     
Mr. Bill Pagano                      V  Xiotech Corp.                       
Mr. Alan Westbury                    V  Xyratex                             
 
22 People Present
 
Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A    -  Alternate
             AV   -  Advisory Member
             E    -  Emeritus
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor

4. Miscellaneous topics

No miscellaneous topics were presented to the group.

5. SAS-2 letter ballot comment resolution topics

5.1 SAS-2 revision 14 letter ballot comment resolution as of sas2r14 (08-212r4) [Elliott]

Rob Elliott led the group through a discussion of the seven open protocol issues that remained to be processed from Letter Ballot comments against SAS-2 (08-212r4). Rob agreed to prepare a new revision to reflect the agreements reached during this meeting.

5.2 SAS2r14c: Fixes for confirmations and requests (08-343r0) [Penokie]

Rob Elliott and George Penokie reviewed the issues raised by 08-343r0 and updated the SAS-2 Letter Ballot comments resolution based on the agreements reached.

5.3 SAS-2 ZONE GROUP VALID bit (08-360r2) [Symons]

The group requested that 08-360r2 in the SAS-2 Letter Ballot comments resolution.

5.4 SAS-2 SNW-3 SATA port selector confusion (08-283r1) [Elliott]

Rob Elliott noted that 08-283r0 is incorporated in the SAS-2 r14c Letter Ballot responses, and asked that discussion of this topic be removed from future agendas.

5.5 SAS-2 SL_CC transition wording fixes (08-293r0) [Penokie]

George Penokie noted that 08-293r0 is incorporated in the SAS-2 r14c Letter Ballot responses, and asked that discussion of this topic be removed from future agendas.

6. Zoning topics

The group suspended the categorization of topics as zoning until the SAS-2 Letter Ballot work was completed.

7. Non-zoning Expander topics

The group suspended the categorization of topics as non-zoning until the SAS-2 Letter Ballot work was completed.

8. SAS Protocol Layer (SPL) topics

8.1 SAS-2 Far-end retimed loopback phy test function (07-119r5) [Elliott]

Rob Elliott asked that discussion of the proposal to define a far-end loopback testing mechanism for SAS (07-119r4) be deferred to the next meeting.

8.2 SAS: Add low power transceiver options (08-015r4) [Houlder]

Gerry Houlder asked that discussion of his document whose purpose was building consensus regarding the SAS protocol efforts to lower power consumption on inactive SAS links or SAS links with reduced activity (08-015r4) be deferred to the next meeting.

8.3 Review of new SAS Project Proposals (08-118r1) [Elliott and Butt]

Since the SAS-2.1 project proposals have been approved by INCITS, John Lohmeyer asked that this topic be removed from future agendas.

8.4 SAS-2+, low power transceiver options, phy and link states (08-206r0) [Evans]

Due to the late hour, Mark Evans asked that discussion of 08-206r0 be deferred to the next meeting.

8.5 SAS 2.+ Link Layer Power Management (08-249r1) [Day]

Brian Day lead a review of a detailed SAS Link Layer Power Management proposal (8.2).

Several corrections were requested, and Brian agreed to prepare a new revision of the proposal for discussion during the 17 September conference call.

8.6 SAS-2 SPC-4 Differentiate between ACK NAK timeout reasons (08-064r1) [Elliott]

Rob Elliott requested that discussion of his proposal to define new additional sense codes to indicate when different timeouts have been detected (08-064r0) be deferred to the next meeting.

8.7 Questions about SAS Interface Power Management proposal, 08-370r0) [Houlder]

The group provided responses to the questions shown an e-mail message from Amit Shah (Intel), and Gerry Houlder agreed to post a document (8.5)

9. New Business

There was no new business.

10. Review of Recommendations

The following documents were recommended for consideration by the Plenary:

For inclusion in SAS-2: None

11. Meeting Schedule

A SAS Interface Power Management conference call was scheduled for Wednesday, September 17 from 10:00 a.m. until noon Central Daylight Time, with the dial-in and other information to be announced promptly on the T10 Reflector.

A SAS Protocol Working Group meeting is scheduled for:

Monday, November 3, 2008 commencing at 9:00 a.m. in Santa Ana, CA at the Embassy Suites Hotel (Reservations: http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/STAESES-XWD-

20081031/index.jhtml) hosted by Western Digital Technologies, Inc.

12. Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 6:05 p.m. on Monday September 8, 2008.


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